Best debut albums

[mockney piers]

Right, sort of taking jctg's lead here's a challenge, how about best third albums where the first two were rubbish and exist, unloved, only in the collections of die-hards and completists' collections.

Anyone...anyone?

[mockney piers]

I'll have a tentative stab with Yes.

Meandering psychadaelia gives way to unfocussed rubbish before finding that Yes sound.

Though I'm sure many will argue on here that they never did a good album ;)

[Otta]

Biffy Clyro - Puzzle

Snow Patrol - Final Straw (not saying this is a great album, but it was their 3rd, and the one that boke them).

[Townleygreen]

tfwsoll said

>>Wasn't Deja Vu Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young?

Yes you are quite right!

[mockney piers]

Good calls otta.

Weirdly I thought we weren't going to get anything from the last ten years, as the music industry has changed so much, it's all about an immediate impact these days, whether you're signed and if your first album fails you're cast into the wilderness or whether you're a 'youtube sensation' who's follow ups invariably disappoint (Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, I'm looking at you!!!)

[mockney piers]

I was hoping Pulp's His 'n Hers would fit the bill but it seems it was their fourth album :(

[Jah Lush]

Primal Scream - Screamadelica. Surely one of the best third albums ever!

[mockney piers]

Ooookayyyyy.

Modest Mouse - Lonesome Crowded West.

I actually love their previous releases, but they're definitely fan boy territory and this was their first accessible album and mainstream success.

[david_carnell]

Bon Iver - For Emma

Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes

Neither will ever repeat those heights. Guaranteed. Does that then lessen how good the debut album is, when you know it's a flash-in-the-pan?

[titch juicy]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> UB40-Signing Off

> Joe Jackson-Look Sharp

> Bob Dylan-Bob Dylan

I'd argue that his eponymous debut was the worst of Dylan's 60's albums by some distance

[Townleygreen]

Hot fuss - The Killers is a mean album

[maxxi]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> Right, sort of taking jctg's lead here's a

> challenge, how about best third albums where the

> first two were rubbish and exist, unloved, only in

> the collections of die-hards and completists'

> collections.

>

> Anyone...anyone?

Bound to be a matter of tate this one but I'd go for...

The Manic's - 'Holy Bible', 3rd album and not as commercially successful as 'Everything Must Go' but I think they'd shot their bolt by then.

A 3rd album for fans of radio smooth...

Melody Gardot - 'My One And Only Thrill' (Live from SoHo being an EP)...

Another one down to taste but...

Talking Heads - 'Fear Of Music', the one that turned my head in their direction.

[mockney piers]

I can go with MSP as it was Holy Bible that got them the wider acclaim, though I'm sure fans will freak at the thought that the first two are no good. as for EMG I don't care what happened late, I'm looking for slow starters.

I can have TH as your personal point of view, but seeing as their first two albums are classics I can't let them in ;)

I was considering Led Zep on the rather weak effort that it was on III that they really found that distinctly Led Zep sound rather than being a fantastic blues rock band with a distinctive sound, if you see what I mean, but considering the first two are total classics with many of the all time best loved songs on them, I can't allow that either.

It's actually really hard isn't it.

[StraferJack]

I'm going with Japan

Adolescent Sex and Obscure Alternatives were the first two albums and fairly ropey

When Quiet Life turned up people had to check it was them

[mockney piers]

I toyed with Cocteau Twins in that Treasure was their first classic, but Head over Heels is far too good to dismiss.

[StraferJack]

Kraftwerk had some "interesting" albums before hitting their stride with Autobahn. But that is a 4th album

[red devil]

Hunky Dory...but the 4th wasn't bad either ;-)

[mockney piers]

Bonus points for fourth I reckon!!

[Townleygreen]

Rock Ferry - Duffy was very good, her second is cr*p in comparison...

[maxxi]

Yello - You Gotta Say Yes to Another Excess ... (The album with 'I Love You' and though the 3rd album it's still way before everything they did was used by BBC sports broadcasters and/or US film soundtracks of the 80s)

They Might Be Giants - Flood.

And for bonus points what about-

T.Rex - T. Rex ... Debut album of band's abbreviated name but fifth album overall.

[jctg]

The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn of course.

[mockney piers]

Coool Maxxi.

I've a fifth album up my sleeve too.

The Shamen produced god-awful post goth indie-rock psychedelia fare until dropping some pills and producing the then classic En-Tact, before resuming on the turgid [now dancey] rubbish path.

It hasn't aged well though.

[david_carnell]

Elbow, whilst being critically aclaimed, only acheived popularity with their 4th album, Seldom Seen Kid.

[mockney piers]

Mind you two and three weren't great.

[mockney piers]

Dare I moot Parachutes as a good debut without being shot down in flames?

I haven't liked anything since, but that first one has charm.