Babies and prams in Pubs!

[Sue]

Damian H Wrote:

SUch attacks have descended into

> what was clearly an attempt to work out a grudge

> by identifying and attacking my business

> interests. I have no desire to continue to engage

> with posters who behave like this.

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Damian, I think that since you have started a thread on this very forum

here

one would not have to go far to identify your "business interests."

I also think that as that thread indicates that your business specifically involves pregnant women, who are at quite a vulnerable time of their life in some respects, then it is legitimate - and not irrelevant - to question why you have a whole series of quite aggressive (and in some cases childish) posts on this thread, including apparently dissing the actions of local mothers (plus another thread in the lounge headed "Mary Portas - Sexist Old Trout?".)

If I was expecting a baby and looking for a hypnotherapist, and saw your business thread, I might well check out your other posts on this forum, which as Helena has said is very easy to do just by clicking on your name.

And then - well, I leave you to guess what I would do.

Admin, I realise you have asked people not to make personal comments on this thread, but as the other posts are still here, I think it is only fair to point out the above.

[DulwichFox]

Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> The Actress has no kids menu.

>

> xxxxxxxx

>

> It doesn't have a separate menu specially aimed at

> kids, though it sells things like pizza by the

> slice.

>

> It does have an area specifically designated for

> parents with children (and other customers if

> they wish, obviously), and another area where

> children are not allowed to sit.

I do not think selling pizza by the slice constsitutes catering for kids...

Pizza is one of the Least Healthy foods you can get..or give to a child.

High in Saturated Fat & Salt. White Bread Flour.

Full of High GI Carborhydrates thate creates peaks in blood sugar.

Top that up with a cola.

and people wonder why the kids are becoming overweight and are developing type 2 diabetes..

[edcam]

Sue Wrote:

> Admin, I realise you have asked people not to make

> personal comments on this thread, but as the other

> posts are still here, I think it is only fair to

> point out the above.

Perhaps Admin should delete the thread so that people stop trying to have the last word. It's all becoming very tedious and moving away from the point of the thread.

[ClareC]

Sue Wrote:

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> Damian H Wrote:

> SUch attacks have descended into

> > what was clearly an attempt to work out a

> grudge

> > by identifying and attacking my business

> > interests. I have no desire to continue to

> engage

> > with posters who behave like this.

>

> xxxxxx

>

> Damian, I think that since you have started a

> thread on this very forum

>

> here

>

> one would not have to go far to identify your

> "business interests."

>

> I also think that as that thread indicates that

> your business specifically involves pregnant

> women, who are at quite a vulnerable time of their

> life in some respects, then it is legitimate - and

> not irrelevant - to question why you have a whole

> series of quite aggressive (and in some cases

> childish) posts on this thread, including

> apparently dissing the actions of local mothers

> (plus another thread in the lounge headed "Mary

> Portas - Sexist Old Trout?".)

>

> If I was expecting a baby and looking for a

> hypnotherapist, and saw your business thread, I

> might well check out your other posts on this

> forum, which as Helena has said is very easy to do

> just by clicking on your name.

>

> And then - well, I leave you to guess what I would

> do.

>

> Admin, I realise you have asked people not to make

> personal comments on this thread, but as the other

> posts are still here, I think it is only fair to

> point out the above.

I agree, the posts are extremely aggressive and quite disturbing. Seems the vent is more often or not aimed at mums and babies (distinctly remember the parent parking thread).

[edcam]

I know, let's have a witch hunt!!! That will make everyone feel better about themselves!

[Otta]

I'm not sure your average witch puts themselves "out there" in quite the way Mr H did on this thread. He then said that everyone had insulted him?!?

[Loz]

ClareC Wrote:

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> I agree, the posts are extremely aggressive and quite disturbing. Seems the vent is more often

> or not aimed at mums and babies (distinctly remember the parent parking thread).

If I recall, the mums (and dads) demanding special parking privileges didn't come across terribly well in that one. Probably not a good choice for an example.

[NorthernPup]

Well - now the reality. Sitting in EDT at 2.30 on monday afternoon all by myself. Proper Billy no mates!!! No yummy mummy's, no kids, frankly bit bored. It's Halloween, could do with kids running amok to give me something to moan about!!!

[Sue]

NorthernPup Wrote:

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> Well - now the reality. Sitting in EDT at 2.30 on

> monday afternoon all by myself. Proper Billy no

> mates!!! No yummy mummy's, no kids, frankly bit

> bored. It's Halloween, could do with kids running

> amok to give me something to moan about!!!

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There were kids (and buggies) in there yesterday afternoon, and all very well behaved. The kids, not the buggies.

Not a scream or an obstruction in earshot or sight.

:)-D

[Atticus]

They're probably all hallo'weaning'(coat already on).

[Sue]

Atticus, :))

[edcam]

Otta Wrote:

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> I'm not sure your average witch puts themselves

> "out there" in quite the way Mr H did on this

> thread. He then said that everyone had insulted

> him?!?

Yes but the rest of you keep banging on about it and baiting him. It would be far better if you (and he) would stop now.

[NorthernPup]

Still empty at 3.45 - could do with some y

M's.

[Otta]

Fair enough edcam, but I hadn't meant to bait anyone. I'm genuinely not sure how this thread got the way it did.

[NorthernPup]

Moved to Actress - no YM's their either?

Maybe they migrate?

[NorthernPup]

Actress at 16.30. 9 blokes 1 young couple? Maybe original poster needs to re evaluate drinking times?

[plimsoul]

i have kids, i love taking my kids out to eat. i have been in bars in ED, cafes or gastro pubs and have been both pleased at how some parents deal with their children and been shocked at how some parents take no control of them. i have also tolerated parents shouting at their kids to come back, above everyone else rather than get up and actually deal with their children running up and down the length of the cafe.

i have spoken to managers of bars mentioned in this thread who are appalled at how some families let their kids run riot in places, even after being asked politely to keep them under control.

i would therefore suggest that as fact: some parents control their kids = no problem, others don't = a right pain.

as for this thread/this forum. i used to be quite active but gave up because it very quickly gets personal and nasty. i've only read the last 2 pages but that was enough for me...

but sue your pick up on the posters work after admin clearly asked people to stop is shameless, whatever lame reason you put in there for ignoring the request.

[Loz]

plimsoul Wrote:

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> i would therefore suggest that as fact: some parents control their kids = no problem, others

> don't = a right pain.

I think that sums things up rather nicely.

[zeban]

Totally agree with your entire post Plimsoul. Wish you would post more often to be honest!

[Cassius]

Loz Wrote:

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> plimsoul Wrote:

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>

> > i would therefore suggest that as fact: some

> parents control their kids = no problem, others

> > don't = a right pain.

>

> I think that sums things up rather nicely.

Also agree - succinct and to the point.

[Sue]

plimsoul Wrote:

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> > but sue your pick up on the posters work after

> admin clearly asked people to stop is shameless,

> whatever lame reason you put in there for ignoring

> the request.

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Excuse me?

I felt it was a completely legitimate and relevant post in the circumstances. I do not agree that my reason for posting was "lame".

If admin doesn't want certain posts included on this thread, it is up to him to remove them, and/or to admonish the people posting them. He hasn't contacted me regarding that post.

And - who has brought the topic up again after many posts since? You have! What hypocrisy!

Not to mention that you have also ignored admin's request not to make things personal!

So I suggest that you now let this thread go back to being about the subject originally raised, ie babies and prams in pubs :)

And yes, before anyone points it out, I am also guilty of going off-topic, but I really couldn't let that comment go, sorry. As you were :)

[large7]

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[ratty]

large7 Wrote:

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it's their smug, moneyed,

> horrible middle class parents that are.

What a charmer you are!

[hellosailor]

large7 Wrote:

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> Children in pubs in the ED/Peckham area are

> particularly irritating as they're smug media

> parents let their brats get away with way too

> much.

>

> I've been to pubs in other areas where kids are

> polite and well behaved. So, it's not children

> that are the problem, it's their smug, moneyed,

> horrible middle class parents that are.

Ah, Troll O'clock I see. yawn.

maybe 1/10 for effort.

[*Bob*]

Well said, Large.

I was having a drink in the Horsemeat & Ricketts near Elephant and I couldn't help but admire how all the little soot-faced cockernee rugrats - fresh from being pushed up a chimney - rubbed along so well with the old syphilitic alcoholics. It was a joy to behold.. the little ones listened solemnly to stories about the war, were silent except when spoken to and drank their gin without too much beating.

We could all learn something from them.