Aneto closing

[MellowYellow]

Anyone else as devastated as us?

Great coffee, brunch, pasta and super welcoming for families - ideal given their location next to the playground. We come in several times a week and will be so sad to see it go. Surely not just us?

[stepdown]

On a Wednesday? When I'm having to plan tonight's meal without The Flying Pig's 50p a wing offer?

[cactus]

Such a shame, lovely staff and delicious, good quality food.

They do a roaring breakfast/brunch trade, but much quieter in the afternoons/eve. I feel that it might be

a struggle to make such a huge premises work. That said, I don't know the reason why they're closing.

[cella]

Not devastated- see the other site that's running on this.

[fishbiscuits]

It is a good place for breakfast or lunch with kids. So will miss it.

But IMO - there are much better coffee and pastries to be found locally.

[embracefinancial]

It's a big shame as it is/was a truly independent, owner-run business.

Damiano and his team (especially the long-serving members) have always looked after us impeccably and tirelessly. The breakfasts are great - the poached eggs are perfect every time.

The coffee is also fab, with a perfect balance between rocket fuel and smooth/mellow, but it's also taught me that good coffee is only as good as the barista - Amandine always made the best, IMO.

I appreciate that it wasn't everyone's cup of tea but it will be a shame to see another independent business go.

[micromacromonkey]

It was great when they were in the little space next door. I am a total coffee snob and I really enjoyed theirs along with the nice pastries and they were great with kids too. Something about the big space just doesn't work though, and I guess most people have felt that way.

Was the flying pig also owned by the same people? (There was a door between the two premises by the loos.) I really loved their beer (even if I some of the more obscure bottles were 9 quid each!) and the pulled pork etc they used to do.

[JohnL]

I can see it up for Sale https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-78263207.html

But it might get brought and carry on as it is - or convert to a be more pub like again.

Status says "under offer" by the way.

[micromacromonkey]

150k? What do you get for that exactly? Is that the whole thing? Interested to know.

I have absolutely no idea how much commercial premises cost, but I had assumed that it was a lot more than that. Presumably planning rules prevent it from being turned into residential, where it would be worth 10x that.

[Penguin68]

It's being sold with a free of tie lease - so it very much depends (a) how much longer the lease has to run and (b) what the rental is. The ?150k is not a freehold price, and the length of the lease on offer will be key to the valuation.

[TreacleRabbit]

Is heard they had their rent increases and so were leaving reluctantly.

We love it - am so sad to see them go :(

[JohnL]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> It's being sold with a free of tie lease - so it

> very much depends (a) how much longer the lease

> has to run and (b) what the rental is. The ?150k

> is not a freehold price, and the length of the

> lease on offer will be key to the valuation.

it says 43,500 a year if you click through to the brochure - is that viable or too high for this sort of business ?

[NewWave]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Penguin68 Wrote:

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> > It's being sold with a free of tie lease - so

> it

> > very much depends (a) how much longer the lease

> > has to run and (b) what the rental is. The

> ?150k

> > is not a freehold price, and the length of the

> > lease on offer will be key to the valuation.

>

>

> it says 43,500 a year if you click through to the

> brochure - is that viable or too high for this

> sort of business ?

I would say too high for an independent business.

we were Aneto regulars in the small space. it was our regular weekend breakfast spot and I used to go for lunch on days off post gym (loved their soups and salads) BUT when they moved into the larger premises the cost went up considerably for the same offer (I think it was ?10 for a salad I used to pay around ?7 for. and it just no longer provided a viable option for us financially.

I actually boycotted it because I objected strongly to the feeling I was paying more for the same thing to subsidise their larger premises.

I did however go a couple of months ago as I was craving one of their soups or salads but waited so long to be served I think there were maximum 2 staff members attending to the space-(it was a weekday btw)but with making juices coffees and dealing with a customers at the back and front one of them with a number of kids 2 wasn't enough and I left after 1st waiting 5 mins at my table then another 5 mins at the counter to order.

they should have stayed small with the 2 different offerings.

Aneto never was or would be somewhere I would go for an evening meal or to drink alcohol when there is so much else on the Lane and in Peckham.

sorry to see them go though.

lovely owners lovely staff

Sadly I'm sure it'll be taken over by a chain like Cote as these rents are not viable for small independent traders.

[se22cat]

This is a real shame, had a good few really great brunches here with a mate, staff never hurried us to leave after eating, absolutely delicious food, great coffee and imho the nicest & friendliest staff in London. Will miss the place!

[Sally Eva]

The kitchen equipment shop near goose green closed because of a rent increase. The owner was very bitter (I spoke to him) because he was making money ie the shop was profitable but would not be still profitable after the rent went up.

The shop was empty for a long time (and maybe still I haven't looked for a while) so the landlord seemed to have miscalculated.

Right now, heading into a depression, would seem a bad time to demand higher rents. Possibly more likely that the downturn, combined with more bigger and therefore more expensive premises, is just too much for them.

Or maybe something else entirely different.

[KateFord]

I spoke to one of the workers and he said the lease had come up and the landlord increased the rent by ?30k. Not sure if that?s for a three year or five year lease but it?s obviously unsustainable for the business. Also heard the increase affects the flats upstairs from Aneto and the tenants may have to move out. Apparently it?ll be open intermittently for the next few weeks and closing at the earlier time of 4pm. It?s a real shame tbh as it was a handy place to take your little one, with easy access for prams and a good place to meet other mums.

[Penguin68]

landlord increased the rent by ?30k

Based on an earlier post which suggested the rent would now be ?43500 a year, an annual rental of only ?1350 (?30k less) seem derisory.

[alice]

Nobody knows anything.

[Sue]

I feel it lost all its character when it became bigger.

Sorry to see it go, though.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Still open ........

[JohnL]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> Still open ........

Advert still there but no "under offer" now. The below is probably the issue (all from the ad)

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-78263207.html

"Current rent ?43,500"

"rent review in Jan 2020 with an agreed uplift to ?60,000."

[imasnookercue]

Possibly somewhere for Wetherspoons to consider? The Peckham one is far too ghastly for me and parents could even sup a pint whilst keeping an eye on the kids in the park?

[Sue]

imasnookercue Wrote:

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> Possibly somewhere for Wetherspoons to consider?

> The Peckham one is far too ghastly for me and

> parents could even sup a pint whilst keeping an

> eye on the kids in the park?

It isn't big enough for a Spoons, is it?

[imasnookercue]

i suppose not, but then possibly big enough for the area, as most people are happy to pay ?5.90 for a pint elsewhere in Dulwich?

[Sue]

imasnookercue Wrote:

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> i suppose not, but then possibly big enough for

> the area, as most people are happy to pay ?5.90

> for a pint elsewhere in Dulwich?

?5.90?

Where is that, then?