Jump to content

Recommended Posts

out of interest - why do you say that? Is it the lack of granularity of the information on there? It links to the Kings college data so I'd agree that it won't reflect the precise reading for a particular point on a street if there is only one monitor nearby.


On the other hand - I think it challenges the idea that because Dulwich is leafy with parks, that the air isn't polluted and shows that we need to take steps now to address the air quality locally.

I did a bit of playing around with it and it seems that everywhere locally gets a '3' which tells me the data they have based this on isn't localised enough to give meaningful results.


I tried the riding school on Dulwich Common, The Horniman and Bessemer Grange School and they all had the same rating which I wouldn't expect to be the case.


In summary, the app doesn't tell us anything at the moment, other than that locally air quality is concerning (as these readings must represent local readings, just not necessarily as localised as the app suggests. Its not surprising really as reliable monitors are hugely expensive.


I do know though that based on the work my local residents association did on our streets, that the figures quoted are broadly in line with what was recorded over a shorter period, so i'm not taking any comfort in the fact that the data in that app isn't great!

The web site is brought to you by COPI:


"...a non-profit creative industry alliance ? people in film, ads, tv & music who care about what's going on."


I'll leave it up to you to decide whether you trust their interpretation of the data and if you think their scary call to action is justified.

It is however based on the kings annual pollution maps which are made based on monitoring information, and that have now been updated with 2016 data and have projections to 2020. So an alternative could be to look there!


https://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/annualmaps.asp

goldilocks Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> out of interest - why do you say that? Is it the

> lack of granularity of the information on there?

> It links to the Kings college data so I'd agree

> that it won't reflect the precise reading for a

> particular point on a street if there is only one

> monitor nearby.

>

> On the other hand - I think it challenges the idea

> that because Dulwich is leafy with parks, that the

> air isn't polluted and shows that we need to take

> steps now to address the air quality locally.


I did some playing around also and everyone is a 3. It is looking for a response and a wonderfully helpful form to submit your dissatisfaction.

goldilocks Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> It is however based on the kings annual pollution

> maps which are made based on monitoring

> information, and that have now been updated with

> 2016 data and have projections to 2020. So an

> alternative could be to look there!

>

> https://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/annualmaps

> .asp


Would be interested to know how their model works. Clearly they have taken readings at a number of different sites and then just extrapolated based on a few variables; presumably 'distance from a road' is one, perhaps also altitude or prevailing wind direction. Wondering how it works exactly.

Humdinger Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> mine is also a 3. Is 1 worse or is it 5?

>

> I only ask as i am going to make my street

> significantly worse by having lots of big bonfires

> once Autumn kicks in, as i have loads of garden

> waste i need to burn, as i am not paying for it to

> be collected.


If you are near me you will get reported to the Council

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/environment/air-quality/about-air-quality/main-causes-of-air-pollution

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Rant ahead: You're not one of them but unfortunately, there's a substrate of posters here that do very little except moan and come up with weird conspiracy theories. They're immediately highly critical of just about any change, and their initial assumption is that everyone else is a total fucking contemptible idiot. For example: don't you think that the people who run the libraries will have considered the impact of timing of reconstruction on library users? (In fact, we know they have - because they've made arrangements at other libraries to attempt to mitigate the disruption). After all, these are the people that spend their whole working week thinking about libraries and dealing with library users (and the kids especially). You don't go into the library game for the chicks and fame - so it's fair to assume that librarians are committed to public service and public access to libraries, including by kids. Likewise the built environment people (engineers, architects, construction managers, project managers, construction contractors, subcontractors or whoever is on this job) are told to minimise disruption on every job they do. The thing that occurs to us as amateurs within 30 seconds of us seeing something is probably not something a full time professional hasn't thought about! Southwark Council, the NHS, TfL, Dulwich Estate, Thames Water, Openreach - they're not SPECTRE factories filled with malevolent chaosmongers trying to persecute anyone. They're mostly filled with people who understand their job and try to do their best with what they've been given - just like all of us. Nobody is perfect or immune from challenge, and that's fair enough, but why not at least start from the assumption that there's a good reason why things have been done the way they have? Any normal person would be pleased that their busy, pretty, lively local library is getting refurbished, and will have more space and facilities for kids and teens, and will be more efficient to run and warmer in winter. But no, EDT_Forumite_752 had kids who did an exam 20 years ago, and this makes them an expert on library refurbishment who can see it's all just stuff and nonsense for the green agenda and why can't it all be put off... 😡😡😡
    • I completely misread the previous post, sorry. For some reason I thought the mini cooper was also a police vehicle, DUH.
    • This has given me ideas for the ginger wine I love, that no one else likes!      
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...