favourite pub in east dulwich (Lounged)

[Growlybear]

:)I used to love my Friday nights at the Hole in the Wall

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

What pubs are worse now than they were 6yrs ago? The Plough? The Foresters? The Magdala? The pubs were awful in East Dulwich when I first moved here.

[mockney piers]

The [lord] Palmerston.

I rather liked it before, but point taken.

[Keef]

"The Plough? The Foresters? The Magdala?"

The Plough was nicest years ago before it became The Goose and Granite, so it has changed for the better recently, but is not as good as it was originally.

For me, The Bishop is barely different from The Forresters, you even get the same people in there. Bit of clever rebranding and bob's your uncle.

Mag, fair point, although I did think it had character back in the day, and it was a good venue for the comedy.

This is why I love the CPT, 2 pubs in one :)-D

[Growlybear]

Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy Wrote:

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> What pubs are worse now than they were 6yrs ago?

> The Plough? The Foresters? The Magdala? The pubs

> were awful in East Dulwich when I first moved

> here.

I think all of those pubs used to be much better before they were refurbished, particularly the Plough - that used to be a really nice pub a few years ago.

[KalamityKel]

*shudders at the thought of the Goose and Granite* That was a right hole! There was always trouble up there. I stopped going after I saw a couple of lads from Sainsbury's beating the life out of a poor old drunk wiv a pool cue :s

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

The Plough was nicest years ago before it became The Goose and Granite, so it has changed for the better recently, but is not as good as it was originally.

For me, The Bishop is barely different from The Forresters, you even get the same people in there. Bit of clever rebranding and bob's your uncle.

Mag, fair point, although I did think it had character back in the day, and it was a good venue for the comedy.

Have you ever been in the Bishop Keef? Believe me, you don't get the same crowd drinking in there as they relocated to the Wetherspoons in Forest Hill when they realised that the beer prices went up. It also looks a lot different.

The Magdala was a hole which was more like drinking in a badly decorated living room than an actual pub, and although the Plough may have been good many, many moons ago, it certainly wasn't 6yrs ago.

[macroban]

> Have you ever been in the Bishop Keef?

The reply could be interesting.

[Keef]

Agree RE the plough 6 years ago, but as I said it was lovely in the 80's and early 90's.

Yes I have been in The Bishop quite a few times, as I believe in giving a place a fair go, but I really really don't like it, and I really don't think it's any improvement on The Foresters. The toilets are exactly the same, they've done nothing. Whilst I'm sure you're right about a lot of the older drinkers moving up to The Wetherspoons, I can promise you, you get a fair few of the younger people still going in there, and these were the people that really gave The Foresters it's reputation!

I thought the terrible decoration was what gave the mag a bit of character. Who could forget the "book shelf" wallpaper above the bar!

[Growlybear]

I guess how you saw the Plough six years ago comes down to personal opinion. I used to use it regularly around that time, before it was refurbished, and it was a nice, traditional pub, with ordinary people. It has changed beyond recognition, as have most of the pubs in the area. Give me the Magdala when it was a 'hole' over a poncey, plastic pub like the Plough is now any time.

[Keef]

When did the plough become the goose and get destroyed? I'd guess late 90's, but can't really remember.

[mockney piers]

Ordinary people huh? I much prefer the 12 limbed, pewter variety that now hangs about in East Dulwich.

I too rather liked the Mag's old ways. Also agree to a certain extent with keef about the Bishop, I'm ambivalent towards it as it can be fine or it can be a nightmare depending on time, crowd and luck.

We still have traditional boozers in the area, but the only one I miss was the old Palmerston, they're just teasing us by keeping the interior more or less untouched as in no other way does it resemble a pub.

The Upland may not be much cop, but it has to be an improvement on what went on before.

And the EDT for me is still getting it right, and whenever it doesn't it always tries to turn things about (although some of its interior decor decisions have been a wee bit ropey over the last 6 or 7 years!!).

[Keef]

I think The Palmerston and Franklins should both be legally forced to change their frontages so that I don't think they are pubs and go in for a pint, only to feel that I'm getting in the way of the running of the eatery.

I remember going to The Uplands with my dad for a couple of lock-ins just before it was all changed, and it was great! That said, it had a bit of a rep for trouble before that.

[bignumber5]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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> *shudders at the thought of the Goose and Granite*

> That was a right hole! There was always trouble

> up there. I stopped going after I saw a couple of

> lads from Sainsbury's beating the life out of a

> poor old drunk wiv a pool cue :s

Gone but not far, the Pool-Cue-Cranium ritual has relocated to outside The Castle, so there is still somewhere for everyone in the rainbow-like variety of "characters" that make ED special (lest we forget that wankers armed with gaming equipment also like a pint in a nice, authentic, non poncey pub)

[KalamityKel]

I reckon we should gang up on those twonks and give 'em a piece of their own medicine but replacing a pool cue wiv dummies and sticking them right up... no okies I'll stop :p

No serious that whole thing did make me feel sick especially as it was ppl I knew. Safe to say I no longer do know them

>:-(

[reds]

I know technically not in East Dulwich but The Old Nuns Head in Nunhead has got to be one of the best in the area. Four real ales, excellent value Sunday roast, live jazz and a tv that doesn't dominate the pub when the football's on make a superb all round venue. This is just the sort of pub that would fit in a treat in the place of The Uplands - a complete dive considering it's position. Along with the Rye and the new 'Village Inn' drinking in Nunhead's getting better and better. East Dulwich wise it's got to be the Bishop although i have to admit you can get a few gobby chavs in on occasions.

[Sue]

Keef Wrote:

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> I think The Palmerston and Franklins should both

> be legally forced to change their frontages so

> that I don't think they are pubs and go in for a

> pint, only to feel that I'm getting in the way of

> the running of the eatery.

>

> I remember going to The Uplands with my dad for a

> couple of lock-ins just before it was all changed,

> and it was great! That said, it had a bit of a rep

> for trouble before that.

xxxxxxx

Whilst I know what you mean about the Palmerston, it's still a great place for a pint imo (it's true you can't always get a table, but we very rarely can't find somewhere to sit in there).

Yeh the Uplands used to be really rough, now it's just vilely non-atmospheric. Can't understand why they don't get some advice, don't they wonder why they're always virtually empty???

And can anyone explain why those hideous lamps outside are DIFFERENT SIZES, it's bothered me ever since they put them there :))

[ladida]

I think Peckhamrose must be a Dulwich novice not to know where the Dog is. Mind you the pub is not really much to chant about. The Crystal Palace Tavern is surely the friendliest pub around, fair enough, it's over priced, the building is falling down, the toilets are freezing even in the height of summer, the music is a bit overbearing, the staff usually have hangovers, BUT we are a lovely bunch of patrons who frequent the place.

[Louisa]

The Palmerston may as well have another name now. It has lost it's pub like atmosphere and is full of poncey foodies. The interior should be changed to stop me from walking past and every so often forgetting how crap the pubs in ED have become, and almost walking across the threshold into what still looks like a boozer.

Louisa.

[SeanMacGabhann]

I think Keef expressed it rather better when he said pubs like the Palmerston are actually restaurants now and should be more correctly advertised as such

There isn't any need to condemn people as "poncey foodies" now is there?

[Christopher]

The Palmerston is STILL a pub... but its a pub that serves food... just good food that is priced and served accordingly. Just like the Bishop (which doesn't serve good food - but does serve basic food - and that is served in a more basic fashion). On the "What is happening to the CPT?" thread, the suggestion seems to be that serving food would save it... so what's the difference?

[macroban]

> (which doesn't serve good food - but does serve basic food

Basic food is not good food?

[mockney piers]

You're such an idiot Louisa.

I'm half way down your post thinking 'see, I can agree with Louisa' and you ruin it all with your baseless, throwaway 'poncie foodies'.

Maybe you can hang around with MelbourneGr espousing the aesthetic beauty, and mouthwatering qualities of the McDonald's cheeseburger.

[Keef]

Christopher Wrote:

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> The Palmerston is STILL a pub... but its a pub that serves food... just good food that is priced and served accordingly. Just like the Bishop (which doesn't serve good food - but does serve basic food - and that is served in a more basic

> fashion). On the "What is happening to the CPT?" thread, the suggestion seems to be that serving food would save it... so what's the difference?

I think the difference is that the Palmerston and Franklins are places you'd go to to sit and eat. Not somewhere you'd go for a beer and then think hmm I might have a plate of chips.

[Louisa]

Sorry I meant to say, in stead of "poncey foodies", interesting middle class people who wont eat food unless it has some rocket and is dressed up like a dogs dinner. My mistake!

Louisa.