Question for long-term ED residents.

[dulwichmum]

Lovely Asset indeed they do, but I believe that they are only worth about 15% off the fees now.

[Townleygreen]

No, DM I think it deoends on income...the plan these days is to give bursaries to people who couldn't afford to go to the schools, rather than scholarships to people who might be rich anyway. That's partly due to the government threatening to take away charitable status of the schools.

Alleyn's wasn't fully fee paying until Wilson abolished the direct grant grammars (which it used to be, like Manchester Grammar) in 1977-ish. It like Dulwich was 90% free places until about 1970.

[MadWorld74]

just tossing a light hearted, not seriously meant comment to Louisa. No harm done....

MW74...or 'Mad' as I seem to have become known.....oh dear.

[Growlybear]

dulwichmum Wrote:

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> Lovely Asset indeed they do, but I believe that

> they are only worth about 15% off the fees now.

Scholarships to the public schools are awarded for educational merit, irrespective of the parents' income, and the highest achieving children in the entrance examination are invited to sit a further test followed by an intervew. Bursaries are awarded on a means tested basis and are available to anyone who is offered a place at the schools but whose parents cannot afford the fees. At the time my daughter transferred to secondary school four years ago, she was offered the maximum scholarship for Alleyn's, which was 33% off the fees. A friend of hers was given a 100% bursary to Alleyn's because her family income was very low.

[Keef]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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> Have to disagree with the Plough once being nice... altho I hear it's much better these days :p

I'm talking about before it was The Goose and Granite. It used to be a proper pub, but the building was gutted and transformed beyond recognition. I remember going there as a kid and the garden being nice. So there :p ;-)

[KalamityKel]

I'm obviously too young to remember THAT far back then :p

[AllforNun]

Thatcher Thatcher give us a wave !!! Thats how it worked.

[kai]

We've lived in the area for almost 40 years and as kids we had a few more places to mix in the area like Darrell Rd youth club, Brownies in the church at the top of Barry RD, the youth club by the wood yard on Barry Rd or simply just playing on the streets, or going to the woods etc, and trust me as kids we weren't concerned who went to what schools when it was time to play...However kingsdale always had it's scuffles as well as Peckham girls, but in E Dulwich I think we kids were in a play world of our own,...nipping in and out of each others houses, going to the youth club in E Dulwich Estate and the open air playground on Dog Kennel Hill.....sadly there's nowhere for the E Dulwich kids to go and mix today....the streets are not safe, and even when they go to the park they have to be escorted by mums, and you hardly see kids walking and talking on there way to school in groups as they are all escorted in big cars...we used to walk from Barry Rd to Dulwich Village school without parents...as a mum now, I often feel sad for my young child, and the lack of fun, uninhibited , carefree times he wont have, forgeing strong friendships and building heartwarming child hood playtime memories, without being overshadowed by his mum

[Asset]

deja vu.....

[dulwichmum]

Dear Growleybear,

That is good to know, I had heard otherwise from parents - and as my children are still so small, we are not yet in a rush to investigate further as we thought that scholarships were only offered in secondary school. I had read that independent schools had been forced to reduce the size of their burseries over the last few years in order to offer more of them, and I was under the impression that they were awarded on merit and not according to need.

We will not require financial support of any kind (clearly), but I imagine that a scholarship will look fabulous on my munchkins UCAS forms when they are applying to medical school.

[SteveT]

According to my daughter who works in a foodie pub in Herne Hill only the working class clientele know how to control their children whom are expected to sit to attention at the table on best behaviour. The middle class permit their offspring to loudly run riot both in the pub and one was recently saved from the main road whilst brats so called parents were in the pub garden quaffing wine out of earshot and eyesight.

I find the working class people like me refreshingly more straight forward to deal with than many M/C counterparts.

I've forgotten the original question in my indignant rant, any way I have only been ed resident since 03.

[dulwichmum]

I agree SteveT,

"I find the working class people like me refreshingly more straight forward to deal with than many,"

that is why I emply them to look after my children.

[darcy]

Those schools are in Dulwich Village not East Dulwich! Anyway, there is a large private school in Catford, on the south circ- St Dunstans and one in Sydenham - Sydenham Girls, Westwood Hill. It's not just the super rich who use private schools - I know people who have lived in very, very modest houses and used their spare cash to privately educate their kids.