End of Oddonos love in

[Habitualbridesmaid]

I love Oddonos, I like the ice cream and the staff are friendly. However, I can not bring myself to use their products any more.

Its bad enough we have to deal with the pandemic, but the other plastic pandemic is very much pervasively around us. Oddonos use polystyrene ice cream troughs and "biocompostable" cutlery. We all know the dangers of polystyrene and now we are learning the mis-marketing of bio-compostable cutlery. How many times when we walk along Lordship lane, do we see these plastic spoons littering the road.

This cutlery, like any other cutlery of its ilk, will not decompose or biodegrade in your back yard, it needs to be disposed of properly and recycled at specialist industrial plants. I suspect the lifespan of one of these items will not include a trip to such a facility. It will end up in the sea, just like all the other plastic pollution. I left a spoon outside to prove as much with the managers agreement. On returning the spoon a year later, intact, he was unapologetic and unwilling to look at alternative sources for provision of cutlery, like wooden spoons, or even better, no spoons at all. We have got rid off plastic straws, why is this cutlery deemed so different.

Its heartbreaking, Im an ice-cream nut, my dog knows a well worn path to the shop. I can no longer visit or buy ice-cream from them, despite how good it is. I can't urge a boycott, but I believe we should all be aware of the lack of movement by the manager of Oddonos to progress towards a more environmentally friendly distribution of its services and products.

Before anyone says, well what about the super markets, the way we live.... Well I hear you and I hear all your arguments, but we have to start somewhere. Many people are canvassing these bigger organisations, they have to change and so do we. I really want to support Oddonos and their fabulous ice cream as they are a very important part of Lordship Lane, but in this instance, on account of the polystyrene tubs and non-bio-compostable spoons, I can't. One would hope we could ask them to make a change, I tried and was pretty much ignored, may be more people asking might help. I don't know how best to go forward with this, Id love to support them, but I just can't.

[Frankito]

Oh please.. it?s an ice cream cone ffs. I?m sure they?ll be glad that there will be one less Karen customer around.

[Bic Basher]

Can't you just recycle the plastic spoons?

[ab29]

Take your own container to get the ice cream.

[Habitualbridesmaid]

But its not the cone, its the polystyrene and the plastic spoons. This is not Karenism, or wokeism, its just what it is. Surely you have the common sense to see that?

[Habitualbridesmaid]

I wish that were the case

[ab29]

Admin, can you pls remove this thread

[Habitualbridesmaid]

why does it offend you to take a positive step to change things for the better?

[mrwb]

Personally I don't eat ice cream. It's just empty sugar and fat.

Imagine how many heart attacks and other cardiovascular problems we could prevent? Why don't we ban it along with the bio-compostable spoons, plastic straws, polystyrene ice cream trough and the rest...

This is the way the world is going.

[smooch]

omg

[johnie]

OP. Hmm. The small independent shop you used to use but suddenly can't, even though they haven't actually changed their practices. You have "woken up" suddenly. If you think this post will not reinforce negative attitudes to "woke" culture, frankly you need to wake up. Be nice, don't post on forums, talk to them (and more than once). Small independent shops are fragile.

[rachp]

Trying to reduce plastic waste is a totally legitimate aim, we know it?s a problem, especially for marine life. Might be worth speaking to the head office as they are likely to take a bigger picture view. They have 8 stores so that?s a lot of ice cream and a lot of spoons.

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

You tried getting these to help your cause? https://www.plasticfreeeastdulwich.org/

I don?t visit the place but I?m all for using eco friendly products.

Habitualbridesmaid Wrote:

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> why does it offend you to take a positive step to

> change things for the better?

[hopskip]

I find this thread concerning - seems to be bullying a shop for some reason which I suspect is not to do with environmental issues, crucial though they are. Hopefully Oddonos can answer for themselves.

[womanofdulwich]

Just make your own ice cream.its much nicer. Felicity cloake no churn Ice cream. Pimped up with nigellas cheesecake ice cream recipe.

[Sue]

rachp Wrote:

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> Trying to reduce plastic waste is a totally

> legitimate aim, we know it?s a problem, especially

> for marine life. Might be worth speaking to the

> head office as they are likely to take a bigger

> picture view. They have 8 stores so that?s a lot

> of ice cream and a lot of spoons.

I agree. Speaking to the head office is a good plan.

The OP has made her point quite clearly, and I am at a loss to understand why so many people on here are being so nasty to her.

"Bullying a shop"? Her first words were "I love Oddonos".

Good on her for being concerned about environmental issues and speaking up.

ETA: It isn't a "small independent shop", btw. It's a chain.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

It wouldn't be a big deal for them to change to little wooden spoons.

[sally buying]

How about using ones fingers then every green person will be satisfied.

[NewWave]

hopskip Wrote:

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> I find this thread concerning - seems to be

> bullying a shop for some reason which I suspect is

> not to do with environmental issues, crucial

> though they are. Hopefully Oddonos can answer for

> themselves.

ditto-even putting their name in the title is somewhat out of order as plenty of fast food outlets in our neighbourhood aren't exactly green.

[Nigello]

Bullying is overused as a word, which doesn't help when people are truly victimised and tortured mentally, and this does not constitute it. She waited a year to post this so it is hardly ongoing harassment. Don't accept a plastic spoon from this business, or buy a cone! Take a spoon and reuse it or vote with your feet and don't buy anything (or decide to remove plastic from another aspect of your life to help balance it out).

[hpsaucey]

Slightly changing topic - check out Ethical Consumer if you want to find out more about the better and the (very many) worst brands/companies to buy dairy ice cream from in terms of the actual ice cream. (NB - Oddonos isn't one of the ones they reviewed). They score on environmental/Animal welfare/company credentials re: human rights etc.

https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/food-drink/shopping-guide/dairy-ice-cream

HP

[Lordship_local]

I like Oddonos so don't want to engage with the main topic. I will however add that I find it a bit distressing that so many shops are providing biodegradable coffee cups etc, but no way to dispose of them. I like the sentiment, but it does seem a bit short sighted that there aren't any public organic waste bins to put them in, so I have to take them home. I have a horrible feeling that even placing them in the normal waste is bad idea due to organic waste producing methane gas etc.

No point to my comment really, just sharing one of my middle class anxieties.

[colville09]

Sorry, I can't help smiling imagining the poor hapless manager confronted by a person waving a tiny spoon saying they had been watching it for a year, truly zen.