foggy Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Hi I received a penalty charge notice today for going into the bus lane at the top of Rye Lane, I have never driven through Peckham before so was trying to navigate. I should have gone left and re-entered the one way system I suppose, but it was confusing. I can't remember seeing a turn left sign, or a sign on a post that I was entering a bus lane. Has anyone else been unfortuanate or better still contested this pcn....please no smug 'you should have cycled' nonsense, I cycle most of the time..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Check on google streetview... you might have a chance of contesting it if it's not properly signed. Otherwise... it's a fair cop I'm afraid. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBen Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oh well, you'll know better next time. Put it down to experience. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyman Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Dont rely on google street view to check signage, it can be pretty out of date - you can see paddling pools out in our street so definitely not recent! Better to return to scene of alleged crime to check out - on your bike! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengod Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Hi. Same happened to me. It just feels natural to go straight but if you go back and look you will see the signs. I asked for video but there's no getting out of it. Must say its pretty dangerous turning left then right to carry on going straight. No need for it. Just a money making scheme Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Been done there too. No getting out of it so pay early! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyraj Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Yeah, I've been done there too. Didn't see it coming, and just followed the buses, but when you go there and check the signs are there so there's no get out. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Really there should be a way out as if you don't know the area and are behind 3 large buses you'd never see it coming - there's bad design there.When it was a one way system you couldn't do the left-right thing - which is dangerous IMHO.But the law is the law :)Greengod Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hi. Same happened to me. It just feels natural> to go straight but if you go back and look you> will see the signs. I asked for video but there's> no getting out of it. Must say its pretty> dangerous turning left then right to carry on> going straight. No need for it. Just a money> making scheme Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Thank you kind people of East Dulwich..I will indeed pay it, ho hum x really weird to do a left/right just to go straight on...can't see the reason for it... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapacouly Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 My wife got done there. This is just council backed extortion. Disgraceful. There must be a way for peeps to complain officially about this? I wonder how many people get done by this every year. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1980 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Happened to me to. Nice little earner for the council. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelnunhead Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 You can see the photos if you go online. This happened to me. I think I had one tyre in the bus lane, I contested it and never heard back. So perhaps look to see what you did from the photos. The details of how to see this should be on the penalty notice. You can also contest it online. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renata Hamvas Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Most bus route cameras are TFL, if it's come from TFL and wish to appeal, you can do it by email to them (instructions will be on the notice).Agree with Hazelnunhead, look at the photos on-line.Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbob Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Happened to us years ago, again when new to the area. I also think the signage is unclear and inadequate, but like most people couldn't afford to make the time or take the effort to appeal. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheRye Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I think most locals regard rye lane as buses only and avoid driving on it completely, you can't use it southbound at all and only partly northbound Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emza78 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Yup, got caught there to... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minder Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Foggy - sorry about your penalty charge. I think Southwark (and Lambeth) signage is terrible, especially if you're new to the area.Then again, I always enjoy driving down the bus lane coming down from Peckham Rye towards the ED leisure centre towards Goose Green on a Sunday. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yep, I got done on this too last year. It is so badly signed and I was following a bus that was obstructing the marking in the road.Also my fine was sent to the wrong address which escalated the cost! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polla2256 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I do it with startling regularity - waiting for one to come through now actually.Pay it with contempt and villify the council for their money making schemes - was there a pot hole in the vacinity that caused you to swerve into that lane and once in it you went with it as any other further manouver would be deemed unsafe and pose a risk to the general public ?Worth a try and they will have to investigate - the cost of the investigation (checking the road and the maintenance records) will be more expensive than your fine....winwin.On second thoughts your screwed - STOP press there may be hope.If my stree tview image is correct and the sign is except for acess tell them you needed to access it http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=10&t=817356 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renata Hamvas Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Not Council, TFL!Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hi Renata,Rye Lane is a Southwark Road so would expect Suthwark to be the enforcing body.Regards james. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renata Hamvas Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hi James, I'm checking this, as the top part is a red route, so my thoughts on this that London Streets (part of TFL) deal with this part of Rye Lane. I will post when I have it confirmed either way TFL/Council.Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-631975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polla2256 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 polla2256 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I do it with startling regularity - waiting for> one to come through now actually.> > Pay it with contempt and villify the council for> their money making schemes - was there a pot hole> in the vacinity that caused you to swerve into> that lane and once in it you went with it as any> other further manouver would be deemed unsafe and> pose a risk to the general public ?> > Worth a try and they will have to investigate -> the cost of the investigation (checking the road> and the maintenance records) will be more> expensive than your fine....winwin.> > On second thoughts your screwed - STOP press there> may be hope.> > If my stree tview image is correct and the sign is> except for acess tell them you needed to access it> http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=10&> t=817356Yep tempted fate - ?65 for parking in a loading bay tossers, now waiting for a bus lane fine Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-632099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Absolutely agree about the problem of following a bus and missing the signage .And while we're on the subject - Southwark have changed their pay by telephone parking system .So DONT RELY ON A TEXT TO WARN THAT TIME IS RUNNING OUT - they're no longer sent . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-632243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerjules Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 My husband gone done there too - clearly judging by all the people caught just on this forum it needs to be made clearer but I guess the council/TFL will lose a lot of money if they do that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30826-penalty-charge-notice/#findComment-632254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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