Will Blair get a state/ceremonial funeral?

[wee quinnie]

Given that TB seems to meet the same criteria as MT...do you think this means he will get a state funeral?

I can't imagine that any govt would want to get embroiled in the same furore that's erupted over the last week or so.

[Loz]

Considering Blair probably has 20 to 25 years left in him, I suspect the minor (pffft...) complaining might have died down by then.

[wee quinnie]

Loz - like it did with MT?!

[glasshalffull]

wee quinnie wrote

'Given that TB seems to meet the same criteria as MT...do you think this means he will get a state funeral?'

Blimey he had me fooled for all those years, I thought he was a man........

[wee quinnie]

glasshalffull Wrote:

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I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has tried to justify a state funeral on the grounds of gender!

[glasshalffull]

You are wrong, it's not a state funeral and I was highlighting the fact that you were wrong in stating he met the same criteria. He clearly doesn't on the basis of gender.

[steveo]

He's probably anticipating eternal life

[woodrot]

Thatcher isnt techincally getting a state funeral - in the same way that the Falklands wasnt techincally a war.

[JohnL]

No state funeral - neither was Princess Di.

But Princess Diana got buried on a Saturday So we were all off to see it.

Tony will be President of Europe or maybe more by the time he dies of course :)

[El Pibe]

Does a war require a declararion, if so I don't think any of his...four? wars count.

[wee quinnie]

glasshalffull Wrote:

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> You are wrong, it's not a state funeral and I was

> highlighting the fact that you were wrong in

> stating he met the same criteria. He clearly

> doesn't on the basis of gender.

Thanks for pointing out my "errors". This is a state funeral in all but name, and everyone knows it. As for the gender issue - you might also cite they were different religions, or y'know being completely different people.

All i am saying is the basis for this ceremonial funeral is that Thatcher was re-elected more than once, and she was PM during a time of conflict/wartime. Surely this is the case for Blair.

[Louisa]

Of course he won't get a state or ceremonial funeral - he's a former Labour PM.

Louisa.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Blair wasn't a revolutionary. He was in a Labour Party sense, but not in the national sense. He simply extrapolated Thatcherism into a somewhat more human form.

Like it or loath it, Thatcher fundamentally changed the country.

He led the country into some conflicts, but all of them were as part of a coalition led by the US.

Blair didn't get near-assassinated (a la Brighton Bombing) and the gender issue has been noted above.

So, his Tone-ship will probably not get a ceremonial funeral like this.

[Alex K]

State funeral? If offering him one can tempt him to exit the scene, I'm for it.

[*Bob*]

Not a state funeral, but it's one hell of a send-off.

Like so many others, I simply assumed it was part of a secret agreement with cross-party consent to annoy George Galloway.

[glasshalffull]

He's a former 'New Labour' PM.

As a working class boy I was actually quite proud to see someone from a working class background given such a send off.

Whatever you thought of her politics MT was a conviction politician. This has been highlighted by her detractors over the past few weeks. No one could accuse TB of being a conviction politician.

[woodrot]

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1837152.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/George-Osborne-appears-to-be-crying-during-the-funeral-of-Margaret-Thatcher-1837152.jpg

who will cry REAL TEARS at ToneB's funeral like Gideon does ?

[dbboy]

TB - either state funeral or war criminal trial.

[maxxi]

I think he will find a way of having his funeral or memorial service (which he would want designated as a thanksgiving) while he is still alive - and charging an appearance fee (Cherieee would have the souvenir mugs concession)

[Loz]

JohnL Wrote:

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> No state funeral - neither was Princess Di.

To be fair, at least Maggie was a national leader, rather than someone who just ponced around in designer dresses shagging anything with a pulse and a wallet.

[KidKruger]

Loz, That's a bit disrespectful, yes I do have a pulse, but at that time I wasn't so flush.

[wee quinnie]

Loz Wrote:

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> To be fair, at least Maggie was a national leader,

> rather than someone who just ponced around in

> designer dresses shagging anything with a pulse

> and a wallet.

I am in no way a fan of the royals but I don't think as many people actively resented her getting a ceremonial funeral. (I'm finding it really hard not to say "State funeral" - because if it's paid for by the state wtf wouldn't you call it one?)

[Marmora Man]

wee quinnie Wrote:

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> > > No state funeral - neither was Princess Di.

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> > rather than someone who just ponced around in

> > designer dresses shagging anything with a pulse

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> I am in no way a fan of the royals but I don't

> think as many people actively resented her getting

> a ceremonial funeral. (I'm finding it really hard

> not to say "State funeral" - because if it's paid

> for by the state wtf wouldn't you call it one?)

A state funeral requires a "laying in state" which didn't happen so thus - it was not a state funeral.

[Annette Curtain]

Does he actually want one

Suspect if you asked him, he'd probably decline.

Tho ask John Prescott - he'd love that, as long as he's buried in a giant foil pie tray.

[*Bob*]

woodrot Wrote:

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> who will cry REAL TEARS at ToneB's funeral like

> Gideon does ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330909292355?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D330909292355%26_rdc%3D1