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Will Blair get a state/ceremonial funeral?

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wee quinnie

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glasshalffull Wrote:

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> Blimey he had me fooled for all those years, I

> thought he was a man........


I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has tried to justify a state funeral on the grounds of gender!

wee quinnie

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glasshalffull Wrote:

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> You are wrong, it's not a state funeral and I was

> highlighting the fact that you were wrong in

> stating he met the same criteria. He clearly

> doesn't on the basis of gender.



Thanks for pointing out my "errors". This is a state funeral in all but name, and everyone knows it. As for the gender issue - you might also cite they were different religions, or y'know being completely different people.


All i am saying is the basis for this ceremonial funeral is that Thatcher was re-elected more than once, and she was PM during a time of conflict/wartime. Surely this is the case for Blair.

Michael Palaeologus

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Blair wasn't a revolutionary. He was in a Labour Party sense, but not in the national sense. He simply extrapolated Thatcherism into a somewhat more human form.


Like it or loath it, Thatcher fundamentally changed the country.


He led the country into some conflicts, but all of them were as part of a coalition led by the US.


Blair didn't get near-assassinated (a la Brighton Bombing) and the gender issue has been noted above.


So, his Tone-ship will probably not get a ceremonial funeral like this.

glasshalffull

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He's a former 'New Labour' PM.


As a working class boy I was actually quite proud to see someone from a working class background given such a send off.


Whatever you thought of her politics MT was a conviction politician. This has been highlighted by her detractors over the past few weeks. No one could accuse TB of being a conviction politician.

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> No state funeral - neither was Princess Di.


To be fair, at least Maggie was a national leader, rather than someone who just ponced around in designer dresses shagging anything with a pulse and a wallet.

wee quinnie

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Loz Wrote:

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> > No state funeral - neither was Princess Di.

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> To be fair, at least Maggie was a national leader,

> rather than someone who just ponced around in

> designer dresses shagging anything with a pulse

> and a wallet.



I am in no way a fan of the royals but I don't think as many people actively resented her getting a ceremonial funeral. (I'm finding it really hard not to say "State funeral" - because if it's paid for by the state wtf wouldn't you call it one?)

Marmora Man

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wee quinnie Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> > > No state funeral - neither was Princess Di.

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> > To be fair, at least Maggie was a national

> leader,

> > rather than someone who just ponced around in

> > designer dresses shagging anything with a pulse

> > and a wallet.

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> I am in no way a fan of the royals but I don't

> think as many people actively resented her getting

> a ceremonial funeral. (I'm finding it really hard

> not to say "State funeral" - because if it's paid

> for by the state wtf wouldn't you call it one?)


A state funeral requires a "laying in state" which didn't happen so thus - it was not a state funeral.

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woodrot Wrote:

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> who will cry REAL TEARS at ToneB's funeral like

> Gideon does ?



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