Depressed? Nothing to live for?

[Sue]

I think different things suit different people.

Of course ideally one would always eat healthily and only just enough, and exercise more.

But we aren't all paragons of virtue.

Most people who go on a diet where they restrict their calories (by whatever method) on a 24/7 basis put all the weight back on again.

Many people can't stick to a diet because they miss certain things.

The 5:2 diet overcomes some of the drawbacks of other diets. Whether you choose to eat healthily or not healthily on any of the days is a separate issue really, I feel. Obviously a regime of fast food, fat and sugar is not going to improve your health.

Also once you are down to a reasonable weight, you can keep it to that level by having the odd "fast" day when necessary.

But if you're the kind of person who can always eat healthily and get lots of exercise, hats off to you :)

[*Bob*]

It's essentially a series of miniature-crash diets instead of one big one.

The bravura aspect of this latest novelty diet is certainly making it appealing to men though - more so than other diets. 'Fasting' sounds so much cooler than 'dieting', of course.

[Jah Lush]

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> But we aren't all paragons of virtue.

Indeed. Whenever I've felt the need to lose a bit of weight and cutting down on what I eat I find bingeing on cocaine or speed usually works for me. ;-)

[Voyageur]

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> It's essentially a series of miniature-crash diets

> instead of one big one.

>

> The bravura aspect of this latest novelty diet is

> certainly making it appealing to men though - more

> so than other diets. 'Fasting' sounds so much

> cooler than 'dieting', of course.

Bravura? Well maybe for some. Fasting sounds horrible to me, I therefore had my metaphorical fingers stuck in my ears when a colleague (who has lost weight on this way of eating very successfully over the last two years) kept recommending it to me. When I finally listened, I though 'yes - I could do that quite easily'. And so has proved the case.

Let's call it a '2/5 way of eating' then if that helps - what does it matter of it works for an individual?

Bob - I take it you have never been overweight and find it easy to keep to a healthy diet on a daily basis - as Sue says, hats off to you :)

[El Pibe]

of course it's not forbidden, it's just that you did

&lti&gtwords here

and then copy and pasted it umpteen times, meaning some well meaning moderator type had to do lots of search and replacing for you.

Just try and do it properly next time ;-P

[*Bob*]

Me? I've been on the Slim-Fast plan since 1984.

Still weigh a tonne though.

[Voyageur]

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> Me? I've been on the Slim-Fast plan since 1984.

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>

> Still weigh a tonne though.

:D

[RosieH]

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> > > Yes, people forget that weight loss isn't the

> > main

> > > aim of the fasting diet. It's the all round

> > health

> > > benefits that are the point.

> >

> >

> > Yes - science suggest that the health benefits

> of

> > the 5:2 fasting diet are the same as a regular,

> > run-of-the-mill healthy eating regime.

> >

> > Who'd a thunk it?

>

>

> That's not true actually - where did you read this

> research?

In a health magazine. Why, where did you read yours?

I'd also refer you to the NHS: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/01January/Pages/Does-the-5-2-intermittent-fasting-diet-work.aspx

[Sue]

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> of course it's not forbidden, it's just that you

> did

>

> &lti&gtwords here

>

> and then copy and pasted it umpteen times, meaning

> some well meaning moderator type had to do lots of

> search and replacing for you.

> Just try and do it properly next time ;-P

xxxxxx

Don't understand, duh.

So far as I recall I didn't copy and paste anything, and even if I had the html would have been the same as if I'd typed it in separately, surely?

I can't show you what I used because it doesn't come out properly on its own, but it had this effect: words here

What I used was only what is showing up on your post, not the symbols that are showing up in your post when I edit.

And I checked it in the preview before I posted it, and it all looked fine :(

Can't look now obviously, because it's all gone. Sorry to have put someone to so much trouble, but

I've used every symbol I used before on here with no problem :(

[El Pibe]

yes you did do that, I've the text sitting in front of me in a text editor.

If you didn't copy and paste then that means you did it wrong every time.

And look, you've done it again!!!!!!

phew you managed to fix it this time

[Sue]

Can you PM me what I did, so I don't do it again, as I still don't know what it was? Ta.

[Sue]

OOOOPS I grovel, my html was rubbish :))

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[StraferJack]

Days of not eating on diet = defensive and scrappy

Back to eating days on diet = ooh I don't know what came over me!

[Voyageur]

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> Days of not eating on diet = defensive and

> scrappy

>

> Back to eating days on diet = ooh I don't know

> what came over me!

Really? I feel uber alert and productive on low calorie days - probably because my stomach isn't slowing me down my digesting belly-fulls of grub.

[StraferJack]

Ach, I was teasing, V

[Voyageur]

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> Ach, I was teasing, V

Oh http://theartofsound.net/images/smilies/embarrassed.gif

[*Bob*]

What would happen if one simply adjusted their 5/2 regime to spread the '5' potentially piggy days out over, say '7'?

Actually, keep this to yourselves. I intend the release a book soon - I'm calling it 'Happy Sevens'. I shall be feted by This Morning and Closer magazine, become a multi-millionaire and end my days dead on a slab at exclusive clinic following a botched liposuction procedure.

[suzisoo]

Ha ,I started this diet after Christmas, the weight was dropping off and I was going around telling everyone how great it was. After a while I stopped as I felt I had lost enough but the weight continued to drop and I began to be very ill. It turns out I have an overactive thyroid. So now I can eat anything I like and still stay thin. However I think I would rather be a bit overweight than suffer the exhaustion this has brought.

[uncleglen]

Lots of people are deficient in protein without knowing it- protein is excellent for keeping bloodsugar stable.

[Sue]

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> Ha ,I started this diet after Christmas, the

> weight was dropping off and I was going around

> telling everyone how great it was. After a while I

> stopped as I felt I had lost enough but the weight

> continued to drop and I began to be very ill. It

> turns out I have an overactive thyroid. So now I

> can eat anything I like and still stay thin.

> However I think I would rather be a bit overweight

> than suffer the exhaustion this has brought.

xxxxxxx

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[edcam]

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> > > > Yes, people forget that weight loss isn't

> the

> > > main

> > > > aim of the fasting diet. It's the all round

> > > health

> > > > benefits that are the point.

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes - science suggest that the health

> benefits

> > of

> > > the 5:2 fasting diet are the same as a

> regular,

> > > run-of-the-mill healthy eating regime.

> > >

> > > Who'd a thunk it?

> >

> >

> > That's not true actually - where did you read

> this

> > research?

>

> In a health magazine. Why, where did you read

> yours?

>

> I'd also refer you to the NHS:

> http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/01January/Pages/Does-t

> he-5-2-intermittent-fasting-diet-work.aspx

Well the NHS are (quite rightly) unlikely to do anything other than play safe. And a "health magazine"? Neither of these amount to "science", soz.

[Voyageur]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> What would happen if one simply adjusted their 5/2

> regime to spread the '5' potentially piggy days

> out over, say '7'?

>

> Actually, keep this to yourselves. I intend the

> release a book soon - I'm calling it 'Happy

> Sevens'. I shall be feted by This Morning and

> Closer magazine, become a multi-millionaire and

> end my days dead on a slab at exclusive clinic

> following a botched liposuction procedure.

Well that's easy - some of us don't live uniform lives. I am 'good' during the week but eat out or at dinner parties plus alcohol ++ at weekends. Next? (god almighty, this thread is going round in circles ad nauseum...).

[LadyDeliah]

There is a lot of evidence that refined carbohydrates, especially sugar and flour are the main cause of our obesity epidemic so reducing most carbs helps to smooth out blood sugar, reduce water retention, increase energy levels and shed loads of weight.

I lost 20 kilos in about 3 months cutting out all carbs except fruit and veg. My energy levels went back to how I was in my 20's and I no longer got lethargic after eating a meal.

It was hard to keep it up as I have no imagination when it comes to food and as my old habits crept back in, so did the weight and general lowering of energy levels.

I've decided to get back on track and go back to a strict low carb (except fruit and veg) diet again and see if I can get my weight back down.

[Jessie]

Did you include potatoes in your no-carb diet, lady che? Best diet - health and weight wise - for me is the diabetic/low gi diet which turned me from non fertile to fertile over night seemingly. And I still bear testament to this 9 years later...