dc Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 mockney piers Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Plus I don't think any of this is enshrined in law is it[?]Only since 1962 apparently: LRT Byelaws - No 4 is the booze oneSo it's not new - just enforcement of a law that is already in place. Can't say I've ever thought that I'd give the tube or buses a miss because they're always full of drunks - except during the Christmas season of course when I just might have indulged in the odd sherbet myself. I find people eating malodorous food more of a problem than people drinking but there doesn't seem to be a byelaw to cover that - although 6.2, 6.4, 6.7 and 6.8 between them might just cover it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 At last! Hard facts: http://borisjohnsonfacts.com/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinder999 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Ant Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> At last! Hard facts: http://borisjohnsonfacts.com/is this Ken Livingstone's new online newspaper? He'll need to improve his html skills to compete with thisislondon.co.uk Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinder999 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 though the quality of the journalism is comparable Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawdy-nan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 yikes - boris has brought in the ex editor of the sunday telegraph to "audit" the London Development Agency. Maybe there's a role here for Dulwich Mum.Could've been worse I suppose.Perhaps he'll get the Daily Mail to reconfigure Ken's strategies on race and equality... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Miss Wheatcroft said: "It is crucial to understand how public money has been wasted or misspent in the past so that we can make sure that it doesn't happen again."So no pre-judgement there, then. Patience is very ambitious politically (although the job she really wants is to be editor of The Times) and exactly the sort of power-suit wearing "ice maiden" that gives the likes of Boris the raging horn. Will her audit team look into the LDA's plans (backed "Zone 5" Bromley Council) to flog off bits of Crystal Palace Park to leisure and property developers, do you think? Or is a conflict of interest only evident if it's not your kind who stand to benefit? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Do you think there is a cynical sub editor or journalist at work there or were they really completely oblivious to the irony of this statement??Boris Johnson vowed to root out corruption, cronyism and waste as he launched plans to "clean up" the way London is governed.?The article is about him hiring someone who can easily be described as one of his cronies. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandperson Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 More cronyism to clean up? As they were at Oxford together.Cronyism! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Perhaps Wheatcroft?s first order of business will be to sack Guto Harri. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Second and third will be to order herself some new shoes and retain a chauffeur. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I suggest from now on that we use a code in order to express our approval or disapproval concerning our mayor. During his his time in office he will inevitably make decisions that we disagree with.When it's something we like refer to him as - 'Magic' Johnson.When it's something we don't like refer to him as - Boris Gump.Just a suggestion. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawdy-nan Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Boris is apparently likely to appoint Munira Mirza as "cultural adviser". She's described as a "glamourous young Muslim woman" and she's heavily associated with Claire Fox and the Institute of Ideas / spikedonline. (The online phoenix risen from the ashes of LM). They're a weird bunch (dodgy mc-dodge)- libertarian but ex Marxist. Generally contrarian and self styled promoters of the "enlightenment" - they still deny there's a global warming problem and insist science is the way forward.They run "debating" competitions for schoolchildren and debates for grown ups on science and ethics sponsored by people like Pfizer and Monsanto.She says that the problem of racism is overstated in this country.Personally I thinks its shockingly bad news.Munira Mirza, who argues that racism in the UK is greatly exaggerated, is to serve as a cultural adviser to the mayor. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I don't know anything about her, but who else might be best placed to give an opinion about the state of racism than a Muslim woman? She has suggested that policy decisions that are based on multi-culturalism may not be a good thing. It's apoint of view that's up for debate. Science as a way forward? I can't argue with that.As far as I'm aware there is still some arguement as to whether there's global warming (man-made) or climate change (natural) unless you decide to take it as an article of faith.Encouraging schoolkids to engage in debate with Pfizer and Monsanto? Not such a bad thing, any kids I know would be prepared to put awkward questions, awkwardly. I can't see why it's 'shockingly bad news' Is she just the 'wrong' sort of Muslim woman for your taste? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawdy-nan Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I totally distrust the cabal involved in institute of ideas / spiked / manifesto club / culture wars etc. I certainly find their challenge to the received ideas useful and contrarians are good for a laugh but their idea of a debate often involves filling a panel with people whose views already align and intimating that there is a range of views around the table.The debating competition for school children is carefully structured to direct lines of argument and I'm suspicious of them already so that doesn't sit well with me.My statements about mm and her associates weren't supposed to be a devastating argument against her and her chums. I was just trying to give a quick sketch for people who may not have come across them before. I've come across them a lot and I don't like them one bit.I'm interested to see how they'll reconcile their association with Bojo. They published an article recently lamenting his move away from pure libertarianism.Sourcewatch.org is illuminating - in a conspiracy theory stylee - on this.Its "shockingly bad news" in my opnion, given what I know of that gang and given my own feelings about them. So, of course, its an overstatement on my part! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-101706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 In line with HonaloochieB's suggestion:Boris Gump - Boris Johnson drops Ken Livingstone's lawsuit against water plantMagic Johnson - Mayor to discuss Oyster card plans - although Ken was already doing this but never let it be said if nothing but fair and impartial! Hahaha.Edit: Magic Johnson strikes again: Mayor of London Boris Johnson announces the start of a programme todeliver a manifesto commitment to plant 10,000 new trees across the capital. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Will my requests for a tree outside my house now be granted ? I wonder... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 david_carnell Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Magic Johnson - Mayor to discuss Oyster card plans> - although Ken was already doing this but never> let it be said if nothing but fair and impartial!Given that this application - Oyster validation machines at North Dulwich Station - was received by Southwark on 2 April, I don't think we can chalk this up as a plus for Boris. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKB2 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 My hopes of substantive improvements to quality of life in London evaporated long before Boris as mayor could even be joked about, and definitely well before this afternoon when the pollution levels made me feel ill - again. So I was heartened by the news that not everyone has been reduced to apathy (or even desperate humour). Some Oxford citizens (among others) have taken to anarchist tactics to assert their continuing interest in civic engagement - painting ED's roads in lovely colours anyone? http://www.wormworks.com/roadwitch/index.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 david_carnell Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Magic Johnson strikes again: Mayor of London Boris Johnson > announces the start of a programme to deliver a manifesto > commitment to plant 10,000 new trees across the capital.This one's a bit odd too. ?4m to deliver 10,000 trees over 4 years at ?400 per tree? Sounds impressive eh?Well.... 425,000 new trees have now been planted throughout London since the start of Trees forCities? ?Million Trees Campaign?, which was launched in June 2002 - ie roughly 71,000 trees per year.We were apparently on target to plant 1 million new trees by 2012. So, whilst an extra 2,500 per year is of course welcome, it's only 1.7% of the total that were due to be planted anyway between now and 2012.All details here in a Press Release dated 18 April 2008: London's Million Trees Campaign Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozequeen1 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 bawdy-nan Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> They run "debating" competitions for> schoolchildren and debates for grown ups on> science and ethics sponsored by people like Pfizer> and Monsanto.> For anyone who eats food, or who has children or grandchildren who are planning to eat food in the future..if you only watch one film/read one book this year, watch/read this:The documentary, Le Monde Selon Monsanto, by Marie Monique Robin, available to download from Arte (for PC only, not Mac); the book is currently only in French, English version available Jan 2009. http://blogs.arte.tv/LemondeselonMonsanto Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Anyone suspect this trees thing has a whiff of Zac Goldsmith about it? Everything Boris has done so far is totally out of character and looks like a sort of party election broadcast for Cameron's New Conservatives put together by people behind the scenes. Am waiting for him to slip up... it can't be long now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawdy-nan Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 More on Bojo's odd dalliance with the Revolutionary Communist Party ... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignumber5 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7395741.stmOyster on actual trains! Got to say I put this as the first mark in the Boris-Achievements column (assuming it actually happens) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 bignumber5 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7395741.stm> > Oyster on actual trains! Got to say I put this as the first mark > in the Boris-Achievements column (assuming it actually happens)Except that, as I pointed out above, this has nothing to do with Boris because Ken had virtually sorted it already:Given that this application - Oyster validation machines at North Dulwich Station - was received by Southwark on 2 April, I don't think we can chalk this up as a plus for Boris.Let's not get carried away folks! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawdy-nan Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Even if Boris manages to take up the oyster on trains baton and actually get it working I'll be delighted.Edit: ER, I mean, even if Boris is only taking up Ken's baton ...!.... I'll be thrilled to be able to use oyster on the trains. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3207-boris-watch/page/4/#findComment-102778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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