Madeleine McCann

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Sue. You were directly responsible for the removal

> of the previous thread. Some people don't have to

> read every thread but moderators and admin do

>

> You can surely see this thread will end up in the

> same place. You said yourself at the start of this

> one you weren't going to get sucked in again but

> you surely have

>

> Learn the lessons from last time. Heed your own

> advice. Listen to people telling you to let it go

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Eh? I asked for the removal of the previous thread myself, and I didn't start this one.

I have been very careful not to get drawn in by the likes of certain posters who I will not name, so what do you think I have been sucked into, exactly?

Why am I not allowed to state facts - not theories - which are in the public domain elsewhere?

Why are people so keen to lay into me, when other posters are continuing to post on the topic?

If you want the thread to disappear, then why don't you tell people the reason and delete it, or ask that it be deleted?

What exactly have I said that is so terrible? Please can you give me some examples. Thanks.

ETA: If you intend to close all discussion on this case, then can I suggest that you have a forum rule that no cases of child disappearance can ever be discussed here, just so that everybody is quite clear :)

[Mick Mac]

I agree with you Sue, SJ is being harsh ( or fatherly :) )

[Sue]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> I agree with you Sue, SJ is being harsh ( or

> fatherly :) )

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Thanks Mick Mac.

Glad he (or she) isn't my father :))

ETA: Though come to think of it, my father was equally patronising on occasion - when I was a child.

[StraferJack]

Short memories people short memories

Why exactly did you ask for that thread to be deleted sue can you remember?

What is Likely to be different this time?

[woodrot]

for fuck sake. stop.

*loses will to live*

*hangs onself from monkey puzzle tree on the Rye*

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Short memories people short memories

>

> Why exactly did you ask for that thread to be

> deleted sue can you remember?

>

> What is Likely to be different this time?

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As I have already said above (short memories?), I asked for it to be deleted because a troll registered on the forum specifically to post on the thread and make accusations which were almost certainly libellous.

Given the propensity of the McCanns to set Carter Ruck on people, and given this country's libel laws (set to change thank goodness) I didn't want the forum involved in any sort of trouble, or to give admin any grief.

OK?

ETA: And I'd quite like an answer to the questions I asked you above :)

[Sue]

woodrot Wrote:

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> for @#$%& sake. stop.

>

>

>

> *loses will to live*

>

> *hangs onself from monkey puzzle tree on the Rye*

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Why are you continuing to read the thread then, Woodrot?

Sincere question.

Easy answer to losing the will to live would be to read something else, wouldn't it?

:)

[DJKillaQueen]

Exactly SJ. This is never going to be a balanced debate. This, like last time, is just one person forcing her view on others, a view based on the threory put forward by Amaral in his book. A book that was decided by a judge to be based on no hard evidence whatsoever. When anyone posts anything that reasonably challenges that theory, like for example why cadaver dogs can not be relied upon without supporting forensic evidence (of which none was found following the use of the cadaver dogs in the McCann case)(and look at the use of the same dogs in the Jersey Childrens Home case and the following media reporting - all of which had to be retracted) that person isn't interested in considering any of it.

Entirely agree with ratty. Losing their child is the highest price the McCanns could have paid for not having used a babysitter that evening.

[Sue]

Anyway, now I'm going to go and do other things, so you can all have a lovely time slagging me off whilst I'm gone.

Enjoy :)

Or of course you could follow your own advice and not keep posting on the thread, so it disappears :)

ETA: And DJKQ, as I have said, I am not going to be drawn in again by you.

[SCSB79]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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I said it did not constitute

> neglect.

>

> To blame these parents for the crime of another is

> wrong.

Of course the fu*king parents are to blame. Because of their f*cking laziness and need to drink and dine rather than look after their children, one is most probably dead.

Neglect:

verb (used with object)

1.

to pay no attention or too little attention to; disregard or slight: The public neglected his genius for many years.

2.

to be remiss in the care or treatment of: to neglect one's family; to neglect one's appearance.

3.

to omit, through indifference or carelessness: to neglect to reply to an invitation.

4.

to fail to carry out or perform (orders, duties, etc.): to neglect the household chores.

5.

to fail to take or use: to neglect no precaution.

[*Bob*]

My personal opinion?

Professor Plum, in the library - with the candlestick.

[woodrot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq9KMCUwyxk

[red devil]

Professor Plum is/was an archaeologist...did anyone bother to check underneath the patio?

[StraferJack]

Not sure which question you mean sue

[Otta]

As I see it there are several different issues here.

1. Are the parents at least partly to blame? IMO Yes. When you have small kids you don't leave them alone unless you're a moron, and it is neglect of the worst kind. It is possible the child would have been snatched at another time, but don't make it bloody east FFS!

2. Should the parents be punished for it? They have been in the worst possible way, they have lost a daughter.

3. Is Sue like a dog with a bone? Yes

4. Does DJKQ love any opportunity to row with Sue? Yes

5. Can either of them just rise above it and not have the last word? Hell No!

[alice]

mick philpott

[TillieTrotter]

Agree entirely with Otta. But I'm not going to post on this thread.

OOPS!

[Alan Medic]

This thread reminds me of Basil and his 'don't mention the war' sketch in Fawlty Towers. Basil (in this case Sue) can't help but mention it to a group of Germans (most of the rest of you) who might feel uncomfortable with the subject (possibly because you are parents yourselves).

My opinion is the parents were at fault for not looking after their children properly. If they feel the guilt that I imagine most parents would, then that is a life sentence. I doubt there is a parent here who hasn't made a mistake with their children, though hopefully not with similar consequences.

As humans we find it very easy a lot of the time to be judge and jury. Maybe it's because we are harsh on ourselves.

[Annette Curtain]

woodrot Wrote:

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> for @#$%& sake. stop.

>

>

>

> *loses will to live*

>

> *hangs onself from monkey puzzle tree on the Rye*

*hangs self off woodrots lifeless foot*

(only to realise i'm kneeling down under his corpse with a limp rope around my neck*

[UncleBen]

Never liked the look of the parents but know it means nothing. Mind you, never liked the look of Jimmy Saville.

I've not read that much about it but if Sue is correct then I don't understand why the parents did not participate in reconstructions.

[Annette Curtain]

UncleBen Wrote:

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> Never liked the look of the parents but know it

> means nothing.

But you thought you'd say it anyway.

[UncleBen]

Yes.

[applegreen]

There's always hope!!!!

[stacey-lyn]

applegreen Wrote:

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> There's always hope!!!!

Indeed, there is.

Ben Needham, missing since 1991

Katrice Lee, missing since 1981

Kevin Hicks, missing since 1986

Sandy Davidson, missing since 1976

Sadly, there are hundreds, most of who are not household names.

[bon3yard]

Thanks for a little perspective stacey-lyn.