'Major incident' in Woolwich

[Louisa]

Just watching the news and apparently a 'major incident' has taken place over there earlier on this afternoon. Obviously very early on and not all the facts are out there, but IF this incident is related to terrorism, in a relatively quiet suburban corner of SE London, does this raise concern for other suburbs of our city where military bases are located? Anyone have any further details on this incident?

Louisa.

[Otta]

Doesn't sound like a terrorist act, but 2 nasty nut cases who slashed up some poor young guy. My old colleagues from when I worked for Greenwich Social Services could see the bodies from their office window and are quite upset by it.

[ellieaness]

I've just seen about it on the news - apparently it is being suggested that it is a terrorist incident but guess we will have to wait to see.

It's horrific regardless and heart goes out to the affected families.

[stacey-lyn]

From the suspect's video post the attack it's absolutely terrorism, by definition. 100%.

[Otta]

By definition yes, but I think maybe that definition needs looking at. "Hate crime" would be more appropriate IMO.

We shall see what facts come out, but I suspect this was two men acting alone.

[uncleglen]

Definition- doing something like this in the name of some made up deity- sheer lunacy

[woodrot]

not entirely unexpected though- not the incident, but the occurence.

[LondonMix]

Yes, I read they literally hacked some poor man to death in the middle of the street in the middle of the day.

[woodrot]

expect much anti islam agitation and posturing out of this. it could be a marinus van den lubbe type of trigger for the short of sense

[smarties]

So very sad, thoughts go out to the family of the young man who was killed so unnecessarily. Britain has got to toughen up to "terrorism"!

[Otta]

woodrot Wrote:

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> expect much anti islam agitation and posturing out

> of this. it could be a marinus van den lubbe type

> of trigger for the short of sense

Which is why I wish they'd stop using the words islamic and terrorism every two seconds!

[the-e-dealer]

Two guys run over someone - a soldier on the pavement then hack his head off and ask passers by to video them. Not Terrorism?

[woodrot]

Sun Tzu - Kill One, Frighten Ten Thousand

its all about airplay nowadays

pulled from the EDL Facebook page - Im not going to link

"Again please be patient we have 3000+ new page likes in a very short space of time, Our thought must be with the dead soldier and his family, We will never surrender to this SCUM"

[????]

Places I visit less savoury than this are reporting a mosques being attacked in Woolwich, hopefully just Internet sh1te

[glasshalffull]

2 followers of Islam target an individual, kill him in a barbaric act of terror and you don't want the words Islamic and terrorism mentioned. How do you want it described?

Woodrot wrote,

expect much anti islam agitation and posturing out

> of this. it could be a marinus van den lubbe type

> of trigger for the short of sense

I obviously agree that the Nazi party were extremely short of sense, and not only when they executed Marinus van den lubbe for his political beliefs, what major political organisation in Britain today are you suggesting is going to execute innocent individuals for their political beliefs?

[woodrot]

read my post.

[glasshalffull]

Do you mean your last post? That doesn't answer the question I asked, unless you are calling the EDL a major political organisation.

[woodrot]

attack on Gillingham mosque already

https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/337304991872188416/photo/1

[El Pibe]

My gut says to call this terrorism flatters it and gives it political justification to some extent.

To me this is just pointless nihilistic violence, it's murder.

It's kicking someone to death because they're a goth with pierced lips, or homosexual walking home from vauxhall, or running a cyclist over because they don't pay road tax.

The cheap bullshit political claptrap whilst narcissistically posturing for the cameras suggest a degree of sociopathy to me.

Boring thoughts aside my heart goes out to the family of the chap killed, utterly horrific.

[the-e-dealer]

Thank god its a minor attack at the mosque. Silly Arses who think they are something attacking because some other silly arses who have been conned into doing violent murders.

[????]

Minor. Yeah I bet that's what the poor victims family are thinking....

[ratty]

Hate Crime is correct Otta. Well played. Nothing to do with Islam which is a peace loving faith!

[Otta]

What El Pibe said (because he said what I was trying to say).

[????]

Mmmmmmmmmmm. Catholicism get off with that for priest abuse? Some, minority bits of Islam, are not that peace loving as events in Iraq this week have shown....are we all going to cover up our ears with the Guardian? It's very easy to make a case for significant chunks of Islam (not muslims)being pretty unpleasant.

[woodrot]

???? Wrote:

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> Mmmmmmmmmmm. Catholicism get off with that for

> priest abuse? Some, minority bits of Islam, are

> not that peace loving as events in Iraq this week

> have shown....are we all going to cover up our

> ears with the Guardian? It's very easy to make a

> case for significant chunks of Islam (not

> muslims)being pretty unpleasant.

this is an interesting take on things bro'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/an-atheist-muslims-perspective-on-the-root-causes-of-islamist-jihadism-and-the-politics-of-islamophobia_b_3159286.html?utm_hp_ref=tw