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I'm guessing that spoilt children are maybe the offspring/reflection of spoilt adults, a definition of spoilt adults possibly being people who have nothing at all to do except spend alllllll day complaining about the teeeeeniest irritations of what is to most of our fellow humans, a life of the dreamiest ease, comfort and triviality. Who cares about what happens to people who spend every night of the week out sloshing booze and stuffing their faces. Ha! and Harummphh. And by the way, what exactly do all you sybarites do for a living, that results in all expenditure, no work, and the ability to post to message boards all day? Anyone about to retire?

I think you're right Moos. I think people may be taking his comments a little out of context.


To be honest I don?t think most people give two hoots about 5 year-olds running riot (as long as they?re not armed), mothers breastfeeding or men kissing for that matter.


although in my experience there are plenty of places in ED where you can avoid kids in the evening. Most places most of the time after 8pm I find.

I think Matt took his own point out of context, the instant a reasonable (if constantly rehashed) thread about children in pubs was titled 'Yummy Mummies'.


I think 'Yummy Mummies' is a misogynistic term, when used in the way that it is so often on here. I find it no less acceptable than calling another mother 'Pram Faced'. Note there are no comparable terms for the menfolk doing the rounds.

Since society continually downgrades/sidelines the role of the father, I'd say the original use of YM - given its connotations of 'look how wonderful/beautiful/successful/enviable I am as a mother whilst my City dwelling husband supports my lifestyle' - is misandristic.


So using YM in a misogynistic sense probably counts as irony.

I think that the problemm often lies with the kids being kept in pubs for just a bit longer than they can cope with. A small kid is going to get bored once the main activity of eating is finished with and that'a when they start playing up and getting on other people's nerves. Most pubs even 'family' ones are not really geared up for kids, so a bit of common sense from parents would probably avert annoying others. I noticed that the Wetherspoons in Peckham have introduced a meal and one drink policy for people with kids, not sure how hard and fast it is, though.

I took my son into the EDT the other day and after a while he got bored and started running around, singing loudly which led to pointed looks from the other patrons. All it took was a few firm words to get him in line, as I recall they were "For feck's sake, you're twenty seven, pack it in".

Problem solved with a little firmness.

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> busted by the grammar police (whilst wearing a

> grammar police uniform no less!)



No you're right Yummy Mummy is assonance whereas Dishy Dads is alliteration.


Moos I think you?re thinking of dissonance.

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> It's all the middle class 'youths' that get on my nerves - skulking around smoking outside pubs in skinny jeans listening to derived music that was far better 30 years ago and worshipping crack and smack addicted idiots who wear silly hats



Oi, that's my dealer you're talking about, and they were only waiting outside the pub because they couldn't get served!!!


Great thread Matt, it's been a while. I have noticed that every time we get one of these, the same parents will rush in to attack! Blue one made a very reasonable point way back on page 1, well done you!

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