"I've had enough of you lot, you're all...."

[Brendan]

Flounce is a cool word though. Sounds like a type of dessert.

[SeanMacGabhann]

indeed RosieH - and I agree that a good flounce is a beautiful thing (well, enjoyable anyway!)

But to take the drinks as an example of what I'm talking about - every month when the next venue and date is announced,a number of people say someting like"can anyone come?"or "im thinking of coming but a bit nervous"

The responses to those are the true indicator of how inclusive this forum is in my book.

Of course many people don't want to come to drinks, but those that do are never met with anything but "would be good to see you - never met you before in my life but come along anyway"

[Cassius]

Well - I don't go to drinks or meet ups and that is entirely my choice - I am highly unlikely to meet anyone from any other forum I visit, and that suits me fine. I am not particularly open or contentious but there still might be things I've said on the forum that I might not say to people that I've only met a couple of times - therefore I prefer to keep Cassius and xyz separate and different (not that I haven't been tempted though). That doesn't mean that I don't feel a fully 'paid-up' member of the forum and will comment when interested.

[mockney piers]

Agreed that those that have done forum drinks (or curry, comedy, open mic etc) will know each other, bump into each other etc, and this can be inferred as being a gang, though it really shouldn't.

But as Cassius points out there are many, many contributors who don't, or even won't come to anything at all, but are still hugely valued by forumkind.

Very briefly, and far, far from an exhaustive list, but the likes of Snorky, *Bob*, Alan Dale, Ratty, Cassius him (I think) self and loooooads more.

As long as people are willing to engage here, they are always welcome. I even love Louisa's contributions even if they are guaranteed to wind me up!!

But just because it's a very inclusive forum, doesn't mean everything written by everyone will be accepted unquestioningly; it is after all a discussion forum and the lounge has very few rules.

It's friendly in these 'ere parts, but it ain't fawning.

[RosieH]

don't disagree at all - fawning also an excellent word incidentally.

I sometimes wish there were more contentious topics that I could get wound up about so that I could have a good flounce, usually when I'm having a really bad day, but I find that the forum's too friendly a place by and large. it just wouldn't feel right (though that said, next time there's a debate on the size of women's arses I might give it a go)

[mockney piers]

Inclined to agree with you that there haven't been enough good barnies of late.

Homeopathy, magic water or pointlessly expensive water, discuss......... ;-)

[Brendan]

Despite my best attempts. Ho hum

[annaj]

Hhhmmmm. The flounce-off is a powerful emotional tool and should be handled with respect and caution.

Done well it can be devastating and most certainly argument winning. However, it can easily backfire and leave you sitting in the cold, with nothing to do, looking at your watch and wondering when it would be ok to slink back inside.

I don't think I would ever flounce off from here, mostly because I know I'd end up slinking back, but I do sometimes stop posting for a while, because I know I'm not coming across as I would want to.

There are also one or two posters I try to avoid engaging with, because I know it'll make me too cross..

[bignumber5]

I reckon it's a simple fact of communication online - if you storm off from an in-person arguement, you can't hear anymore and the situation fizzles out. If you sat outside the room while the arguement was continued, able to hear every point that followed, you may well re-enter.

I blame broadband.

[MadWorld74]

I agree annaj, there are some posters that really make my blood boil. But I can't help but get in on a posting if their on it too. I love to see them re-act to everything I say. They're predictable and like clockwork, it's so refreshing.

[giggirl]

I could flounce for Britain. Really, I could. I'm so good at it. I can flounce from a room leaving a sting behind me and the echo of a high heel high tailing-it. Haven't quite worked out how to do it in print though. So I don't expect I'll be creating any drama on the Forum any time soon.

[SeanMacGabhann]

has it really been almost a year?

Anyway.. in case anyone feels like a flounce

[????]

I thought you'd done a bit of a flounce Sean (not a dramatic one just a withdrawal)...but today you're back and I'm pleased..

[SeanMacGabhann]

well the test will be how I react when...

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Frustration, I should feel.

Went back to Inner South yesterday and witnessed 3 things that I would rather not have, including intervening in a potential fight (beating more like) when a small Asian kid was being picked on by a strapping kid about a foot taller.

Thats the real World which seems to bypass many in The EDF "Cocoon" and then I read some idealistic bullshit that bears no resemblance to what many have to face far away from the cloistered environs of East Dulwich, hence the irritation and disbelief.

I was an idealist once, circa 1975/80 and one learned the hard way that in certain walks of life that you get s**t on from a great height by Guys manipulating your kindness and considerateness.

Then I read the appeasers and it sucks:))

I've never quit anything so I won't ever make the statement that Sean related to but soooo many times I wish some Guys on here would travel round and see some of the Human drbris that ruin things for the majority of people of all Racial Groups who are, inherently, good, kind people.

[Moos]

Ah, the old 'I've seen life me and you lot haven't so I'm right' argument.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Tony

this "people in ED are cosseted and don't see the real world" is an accusation that has been levelled before. And it's as bollix now as it was then

i don't have to leave ED to see incidents like you describe. And as i walk through (variously) Bermondsey, Stockwell and of late E&C on way to and from work every day I have plenty of opportunity to see any number of events like this.

But where we differe is that, whilst I'm not happy about it, i can contextualise and look at all the other 8 or 9 million + conurbations in the world and say "yep, that happens". I don't feel less safe because of it. My eyes were open when I moved to the city

[SeanMacGabhann]

dang it - I failed at the first test

[*Bob*]

Please tell us what the real world is like, Tony!

The only travelling I've ever done is between my front door and William Rose and back - by black cab.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Moos Wrote:

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> Ah, the old 'I've seen life me and you lot haven't

> so I'm right' argument.

You cannae beat a bit of experience Moosy, My Darling:))....well you can..get "a great deal" of varied experience.

Please leave this thread to those of us who are more thoughtful, considered and serious on this Subject Moos!

(I'm sure you get the reference in my final sentence.

Now back to your Chablis and let us serious debaters continue undisturbed!

[SeanMacGabhann]

cue the "so you're happy that we live in a world where...." arguments

I haven't banged my head ona wall for a few days... must remedy that now

[Tony.London Suburbs]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Please tell us what the real world is like, Tony!

>

> The only travelling I've ever done is between my

> front door and William Rose and back - by black

> cab.

"bob" I've been around, I tell ye.

I've not only been to ED but WD, ND and even on a few occassions Dulwich Village itself so 'nuff said really...

[bigbadwolf]

Ever been to the bathroom Tony?

[Moos]

TLS, you're the first person ever to suggest that I am thoughtless, ill-considered or frivolous on this forum. I understand your reference, but the words are your own. Are you letting them stand?

[Tony.London Suburbs]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Tony

>

> .. can contextualise and look at all the

> other 8 or 9 million + conurbations in the world

> and say "yep, that happens". I don't feel less

> safe because of it. My eyes were open when I moved

> to the city

Sean, on the surface its a fair point, I felt.

Then I thought this is the same area which had INFINITELY much rougher living conditions in the 1940's/1950's/1960's and you COULD leave your doors unlocked (we did--Yes I know, we never had anything worth nicking:)))..and you could walk the streets with "relative" safety.

Safety and fear of getting mugged etc was never an issue as I'm sure other elder Posters who lived in London thru' those decades will testify and there was 7/8 Million Londoners then too.