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Not sure if football is allowed off the Football Focus thread but so what


I'm looking forward to this a lot without the emotional involvement of England. I think there maybe some great betting opportunities too. Any thoughts picks? At the moment I have to (reluctantly) go for Germany given their group, proximity to home and Ballacks form.

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Did you see quids, that west ham had the highest Englishness in the Permiership this season (average 6.6 players per game), whilst Arsenal were lowest averaging just 0.3.


Just an aside.


I hope so too Sean.

My sympathy also goes with Croatia who are a decent dark horse punt I reckon, difficult to breakdown and beaten a lot of big teams, Argentina, England....


My suspicion is the ever dependable Germans however.

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I never actually enjoy England's games as such (well, not since we twatted the Dutch 4-1), so I can actually sit back, relax and enjoy good football this time round.

I fully support Spain, but for some reason I don't get quite the same knotted tension as watching England, despite their Englandlike ability to get themselves stupidly knocked out of tournaments.

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I won't have the stress and strain of watching another damp squib performance by England and the bunch of overrated under-performing timewasters who play for them.


I won't have to endure another round of Wag photos and gossip splashed all over the tabloids.


I won't have to sit through the total saturation on telly by advertisers who jump on the bandwagon of Team England.


I won't have to squirm whilst watching all the yobs and louts, who travel to these tournaments supporting England, kicking off in some otherwise tranquil European town centre.


I won't have to put up with all the chavs and divs wearing their replica England shirts and spouting their uninformed xenophobic rubbish in every pub the length and breadth of the country.


I can't wait for the tournament to start!

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I agree about enjoying it without the potential of embarrassment from England on a few fronts - I really enjoyed USA 1994 for the same reason.


For those interested, current Betfair prices to win


Germany 5.2

Spain 7

Italy 8.2

Holland 8.8

France 10

Portugal 14.5

Croatia 16


Money on France, Germany and Italy looks like a decent shout (although France and Italy are in the same group)

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