OystercardOdyssey Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I've been shopping at this store for donkeys years and not witnessed anything more than some parents suffering irritable child syndrome, so I've been luckythese people might respond if there was anymore nasty stuff though:Sgt Peter Smith[email protected]a south camberwell councillor: http://www.cllrpeterjohn.blogspot.com (although better to wait for an election)the local mp: http://www.tessajowell.net/ (hurry)if desperate:The ManagerSainsburys80 Dog Kennel HillEAST DULWICHLondonSE22 8BDno solutions for self-appointed parking attendants tho Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOne Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I have been in this branch of Sainsburys several times a week for years now and I can honestly say the only antisocial behaviour I've ever experienced has been at the hands of that peculiarly recognisable breed of "memsahib" that seems to frequent ED.I've been: *trolley barged*had my trolley seized and flung out of the way*been ordered imperiously to move*stood politely to allow someone to pass, only to watch incredulously as a procession of above types have passed without a glance, let alone a thank-you*I have also countless times had to negotiate my way around entire familes - with no move by adults to ask their children to move out of the way, and indeed 'attitide' when I have politely said "excuse me" or tried to reach around 3 children to get at a shelf. This one particularly annoys me. OK one parent on their own has no choice but to drag the kids through the supermarket, but Mum, Dad and three kids? Talk about lack of consideration for other people trying to go about their business!I'm surprised I haven't been in a fight up there given the amount of provocation I experience at every visit! By contrast the staff have always been chatty and sweet. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 BlueOne - would like to point out that there are very few (if any) parents with kids at 7.30 on a Saturday morning. It might not be your ideal time to shop but we love it - in and out in under 20 minutes with narrie a buggy in sight! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOne Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Sounds great! I'll pop in on my way home from my next Friday night out! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy two times Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Can we ban kids from Sainsburys as well as from the pubs in East Dulwich. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOne Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Not surprised this was jumped on in this way - but for the record - my issue wasn't at all with kids in Sainers - it was more about entire families milling about. Surely if there are two adults one could stay out and watch the kids? I would like to think that for a healthy, functional society here is room for people to make some allowances for how their choices affect the people they are sharing their space with? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcao Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I agree...and those families are usually always fat chavs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Did anyone punch Jamie Oliver? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I am willing to be the first if no one has yet! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I was verbally abused in Sainsbury's car park once: by a smug middle class couple...Does no one here want to attack the use of 'smug middle class' as an unnecessary description? Or is that not a terribly-worthy enough a cause to get upset about? And can you really be sure that they were middle class? Perhaps they were upper class people having a dress down day. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Can I say a big f*** off to the idiots who continue to be unable to let a post go on here without blaming parents/children - for every pathetic moan they have - change the record. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taper Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 i'm smug middle-class, so was able to socially categorise them immediately. the alacrity with which people sans children use child parking spaces in sainsbury's is one of the big issues facing the area. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozzyloz Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I've got 3 kids and I don't always get an allocated space. It's hardly the end of the world. able bodied 4x4 drivers using the disabled drivers parking bays is a far bigger issue. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Palaeologus Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I dont have kids and dont mind walking across the car park; but then if I did have kids I wouldnt mind walking across the car park and cant quite understand why Parents are now classed as Disabled and so are in need of extra-close parking. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozzyloz Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 They're not classed as disabled. The extra wide bays are useful for when you need to open your door wide to get toddlers out of their seats and stand them by the side of the car whilst you pull out the rest of the paraphernalia. If there's none available it just means using up two bays elsewhere and walking a little further. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
candj Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Those Parent parking spaces are wider than normal parking bays and it is helpful for someone getting children or a newborn in an infant carrier in and out. It is difficult when your car door cannot open all the way when trying to fasten your children in their car seats. It is a shame that people park in both these and the disabled bays when they clearly don't need to as they are reserved out of courtesy.sorry off topic/SORRY POSTED SAME TIME AS LOZZYLOZ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What they said. It's a real bugger getting an infant out of a car seat in a normal car parking space. I always manage to bang his head against the door frame and whack the car door with my arse so that it smashes into the car next door! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taper Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 There is a road safety element too. it's a rather dangerous car park, so the closer young children are to the store, the safer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenED Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I agree with MP, I don't see why parents get the benefit of extra close parking. All you really need is the wider bays. I am a dad of two little ones who usually parks on the far side of the car park as there is more space and you keep away from the jerks poaching for a closer space. Pop the little ones in a trolley and wheel it over to the store. There is a zebra crossing so its pretty safe. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenED Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Oh but keeping on topic I feel that the guy who got the beating was lucky that the gang attacked him at the entrance to JS, with lots of people around and the sainsbos staff, and security to jump in. Just imagine if they had waited for him somewhere less populated. Perhaps they just wanted to put the frighteners on him. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taper Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 It isn't safe. And children over 4 are too big for trolleys. Parent and child parking near the store is a perfectly reasonable policy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 MichaelP - you clearly don't have kids if you can't see why....im not criticising it's just that you have no concept of how difficult it is getting say a 3 year old and an 8 month old into or out of your car in a cramped space in the pouring rain with shopping in safety....yes when people with older children use them then your point is valid Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-121956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeptfordDiva Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I have the perfect solution to this - ban reproduction then there would be no need for parent and child parking bays :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-122035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
catgirl Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 DeptfordDiva Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I have the perfect solution to this - ban> reproduction then there would be no need for> parent and child parking bays :))Yes and then in about 80 years there would be no need for any bays at all as there would be nobody left to shop in sainsburys (or indeed work there). And nobody around to pick fights either. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-122039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 catgirl Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DeptfordDiva Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > I have the perfect solution to this - ban> > reproduction then there would be no need for> > parent and child parking bays :))> > > Yes and then in about 80 years there would be no> need for any bays at all as there would be nobody> left to shop in sainsburys (or indeed work there).> And nobody around to pick fights either.And with no people wouldn't the world be a better place! - I'm with DeptfordDiva :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3859-fight-in-sainsburys-dkh-lounged/page/2/#findComment-122040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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