whateley rd, peaceful this evening? (Lounged)

[Shaggy]

ChavWivaLawDegree Wrote:

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> When it said in the bible that the meek would

> inherit the earth, I think JC got it slightly

> wrong, because it seems the tight-arsed whingers

> have inherited the earth and shoved all the weird

> and wonderful, non-conformists down some big pit

> somewhere.

"Wonderful non-conformists"? - when you read do you move your lips?

[*Bob*]

I think that by 'wonderful non-conformists' she means - to use today's politically correct parlance - 'nutters'

[Keef]

Just for the record, I highly sympathise with anyone who has had abuse from this guy, especially if it was kids or a lady walking alone after dark or whatever. I don't doubt at all what people have said. I just find it difficult to understand the hateful bile some people have spouted about someone who is clearly not well. Yes you could argue that they should be gettins treatment somewhere, but your venom should be aimed at a system, not the results of it.

[*Bob*]

If you get trapped in a lift with a man who spends the hour shouting "I'M A TOMATO.. I'M A TOMATO.." whilst rolling alternate trouser legs up and down and saluting - then in all probability most people would go home and tell their other half that they got stuck in a lift with a 'nutter'. Whatever.

But it would be in poor taste to devote a snigger-thon thread to him on a public website. Especially if he lived on your street.

[Keef]

Exactly right.

[Monkey]

The "system" IS working... However the authorities do not have a crystal ball. I posted Whistling Man's ASBO terms on this forum a couple of days ago. If you see him being threatening, drunk, noisy... call the council or the safer neighbourhood team. They will take the appropriate measures.

[ChavWivaLawDegree]

Shaggy - it was wierd and wonderful COMMA non-conformist. I don't think that it is me who needs lessons in reading.

[SteveT]

I cannot understand the bleeding heart liberal leanings of some people on here, who would rather protect some undeserving low life troublesome stalker who has put absolutely nothing into the society which they live, other than costs of housing feeding, and defending when they eventually get to court for their anti-social behaviour.

My sympathy lies with Jimmytwotimes when he was desperate there was no support from the council where as if he had been like the intimidating nutter he would have got housed no question.

Asset and Annaj and Chav defended this creep and all credit to them for their humanity, but he has not lived as their close neighbour, and they have not been stalked to their home, or sat next to him on the bus and been intimidated by the obnoxious lout like many have.

As resources are finite I would rather Jimmytwotimes was served positively by the welfare state, than the antisocial asbo collectors who in my mind should be put to work helping in the community rather than fragmenting it by their disgraceful carryings on. The chances are the ones who have just left Whateley rd have probably been re-housed on several occasions and have received more than their fair share of commitment from the council.

In my opinion once they have been housed and then they lose it for their misbehaviour, that house should be given to the Jimmytwotimes variety of individual who needs a helping hand, and the once in his life time need is taken care of. Otherwise the system seems to encourage outrageous behaviour.

Sorry if I come over as a "total tool" Keef which incidentally made me laugh out loud, and its making me chuckle as I write we shall just have to agree to differ.

I am all for the welfare state where deserving cases are looked after, but not for the individuals who make a career of being anti-social.

[Keef]

It's the whole under the bus thing that got me.

[Asset]

Yes I agree Keef, I'm not defending him or his actions particularly, just feeling uncomfortable with people wishing him a violent death and other unpleasant things.

[SteveT]

Oh I see, yes that was an unwarranted remark and I shall try to do better next time.

[annaj]

Yes I agree Keef, I'm not defending him or his actions particularly, just feeling uncomfortable with people wishing him a violent death and other unpleasant things.

Exactly.

My post was not intended to belittle anyone's suffering or defend antisocial behaviour, only to point out that I found the some of the attitudes on this thread deeply unpleasant.

[SteveT]

If there were stocks on Goose Green (like I have suggested on previous posts) they would all be put there for a few days and the community could hit back in a socially approved way.

It could stimulate new local businesses, rotten egg and tomato suppliers for example would clean up.

It would make us all feel so much better if we could issue some payback to the local miscreants.

We would all know the punishment was fitting the crime, and justice would be seen to be done.

The money raised could go to rehousing them and they would be released as soon as there was sufficient money to look after them, having of course paid out the compensation to the people who had suffered any indignities metred out by them.

We could hire Keefs band, and give Bon3yard a stall to sell his gourmet snacks, it would be a national ed holiday.

We could have a bonfire, it's always nice to see a blaze.

A win win situation, with all the visiting from out of towners spending their hard tourist currency.

I might run for mayor of ED next year, ......Boris beware.

[SeanMacGabhann]

I think you are confusing your idea of stocks with the kind that appeared in DC Thomson comics Steve T

A lot more than rotten tomatoes were thrown at people. In fact not everything got thrown.. In fact....

Actually best just forget the whole idea of stocks as pretty barbaric (much like a lot of society at that point in time)

[Brendan]

So if you're so anti stocks what exactly do you do with all those bones from William Rose?

[SeanMacGabhann]

if you go cracking jokes young man, how do you expect to get up to the full Brendan-Strength-Monday-Morning-Rage

like it tho..

[Brendan]

Rage? Moi?

[TheePope]

Keef Wrote:

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> "Sweet"girl, you have anonymity on here, at least

> grant this human being the same right, as I think

> any news story would until he's actually been

> convicted of something, which he probably won't

> be!

>

> FFS

Agree with this - like on this thread

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,154783,155161#msg-155161

[boswell]

Why is it OK to refer very specifically to someone so that everyone knows who they are as long as they are attributed a nickname, but not to refer to their real name? I'm not sure about this myself, I know perhaps you could then google them or something whilst 'The Whistler' woouldn't have quite the same results. Don't know if I'm being a bit thick and missing something here, because somehow 'naming and shaming' feels a bit wrong to me but I couldn't quite put my finger on why (other than perhaps it 'humanises' them so I feel less comfortable talking about them!).

P.S. to clear up potential confusion if people trawl through my previous posts in order to determine the integrity of my character before deciding how to respond to my post, my other half nicked my profile when posting before (the thought of me on a bicycle in central London is truly terrifying).

[SteveT]

I would rather know and/or recognise the loonatic fringe so I may be able to avoid them. I have no wish to look for trouble but as they say fore warned is fore armed.

Haven't a clue what it means!

[Administrator]

Time to move this thread to the Lounge as the topic of Whateley Road seems to have come to an end.

[sweetgirl]

-- moved topic --

[SteveT]

The whistling in my ears has gone.

Finally, a cure for tinnitis.

[Bornandraised]

I just walked by....but was this the place opposite the police station?

[SteveT]

Errr yes.