Cut Throat Lane? (Camberwell)

[philiphenslowe]

I was at the Jack the Ripper exhibition at the Museum in Docklands yesterday + whilst I was looking at Charles Booth's 1889 Poverty Map I noticed a long road near Grove Hill Road/Ivanhoe Road called Cut Throat Lane

http://www.umich.edu/~risotto/maxzooms/se/seh1112.html

http://www.umich.edu/~risotto/maxzooms/se/sej1112.html

Can anyone throw any light on this please?

Thanks

[lozzyloz]

Oddly enough there's an article about the name change in the NY Times (click on full article for the Pdf)

[Jeremy]

If you walk along Grove Hill Road, just after you pass Camberwell Grove (on your left), there is a locked gate. This leads into private gardens, which I believe residents of Grove Hill Road have keys to. It looks like Cut Throat Lane runs through these gardens.

[Jeremy]

A quick google also tells me that remnants of Cut Throat Lane can be seen on Copleston Passage (shortcut between the northern ends of Copleston Rd and Ivanhoe Rd).

[philiphenslowe]

lozzyloz Wrote:

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> Oddly enough there's an article about the name

> change in the NY Times (click on full article for

> the Pdf)

Amazing - thank you

[serif]

It runs along the boundary of the gardens of Grove Hill Road and what was once the Lettsom Estate - part of which is now Lettsom Gardens (which Jeremy refers to), the trees at the end of the Grove Hill Road Gardens mark where the boundary would have been.

[Annasfield]

What's wrong with Frying Pan Alley? I'm pretty sure that's somewhere near my office.

Great name. (tu)

[kidder]

Check out this map which clearly shows Cut Throat Lane undeveloped and not much going on in ED.

[Jah Lush]

Annasfield Wrote:

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> What's wrong with Frying Pan Alley? I'm pretty

> sure that's somewhere near my office.

>

> Great name. (tu)

Any relation to Tin Pan Alley?

[sillywoman]

kidder Wrote:

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> Check out this map which clearly shows Cut Throat

> Lane undeveloped and not much going on in ED.

Wow! do you have a date for that map. It's fab. i love stuff like that.

[Jeremy]

That map actually says "Cut Through Lane"... which makes a lot more sense than "Cut Throat".

Probably from the first half of the 19th century, seeing as Camberwell Grove is there, but none of the (Victorian) residential roads exist in Dulwich yet...

[EDOldie]

sillywoman Wrote:

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> kidder Wrote:

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> > Check out this map which clearly shows Cut

> Throat

> > Lane undeveloped and not much going on in ED.

>

> Wow! do you have a date for that map. It's fab. i

> love stuff like that.

Here you are, it's facinating. South east london

[Lep]

Have a read of Burning Bright by Tracy Chevalier - describes life in Cut Throat Lane in the 18th C and quite a good story too!

[mockney piers]

In the past streetnames reflected a little more honestly the trades and activities that went on therein.

I always crack up at the thought of Grope**** Lane which was near what is now Barbican, renamed Milton St, I'm sure he'd have been proud...err so to speak..

I rather like Cut-Throat Lane, no worse than Nunhead in honour of some poor decapitated sister (citation needed).

[Brendan]

So how would one appropriately rename our current streets to reflect what goes on, on them?

[mockney piers]

How long before someone suggests Bugaboo Boulevard.

....

Doh!!!

[Keef]

Surely Whateley Road will get a few suggestions...

[mockney piers]

Where would earn the timely sobriquet of Negative Equity Crescent?

[Keef]

Interesting, Crystal Palace Road is Harris Road, don't know when the name actually changed, but it was obviously after the great exhibition centre was moved to Penge.

Also, no St John's Church on Goose Green, which surprised me, but a chapel more or less where Jojo Maman Bebe is these days :-S

[Moos]

Keef, where St. John's is now there seems to be a farmhouse - were you able to read the name? I printed it off, but couldn't. Something Hall Farm.

[mockney piers]

ED - 1891

 

[mockney piers]

Blimey, 3 years later...someone was busy

 

[Jimbob]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> That map actually says "Cut Through Lane"... which

> makes a lot more sense than "Cut Throat".

>

> Probably from the first half of the 19th century,

> seeing as Camberwell Grove is there, but none of

> the (Victorian) residential roads exist in Dulwich

> yet...

baring in mind "the cut" in waterloo, "cut through lane" does make a bit more sense, but it just dosent have the same ring to it as "cut throat lane".