The next Prime Minister?

[????]

...well if it went on their conferences speeches (and I know it doesn't) it would be Dave over Ed...... by a mile

[Otta]

Yep, if based on that then Ed would have no chance at all.

[Loz]

Based on that speech, Ed would have failed to get a job a McDonalds.

'Gareth' on the other hand, seems to be a rising star. The Guardian even sought his comments today on Cameron's speech, which essentially was "I didn't listen to it".

[Mick Mac]

I think I posted on here the day Ed got elected leader that as long as he was at the helm it was going to be years in the wilderness for labour. Can we find that thread?

[red devil]

Just type 'smug' in the search bar... :)

[Jah Lush]

[numbers]

If only Alan Johnson had stood for the leadership contest instead of backing Miliband.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Surely Boris is going to step in and push Dave out of the way.

[Loz]

Cameron: "On the 7th May you could go to bed with Nigel Farage and wake up with Ed Miliband".

Made me laugh.

[Otta]

I think Ed Miliband is a decent man and I think he has some good ideas, I just think he's a media disaster, and unfortunately he lives in a time where substance means fuck all, and playing well to the cameras / microphone means everything.

[El Pibe]

wo'ottasaid

[Jessie]

Cameron is a pr man. Gives good speech but all quips and no substance. Unless you go for the Tory thing and then of course you'd gobble it up.

[legalbeagle]

I would rather rip both eyes out and fry them than vote for Cameron, no matter how good his speech writer might be.

[Salsaboy]

Boris, Boris, Boris.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Otta Wrote:

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> I think Ed Miliband is a decent man and I think he

> has some good ideas, I just think he's a media

> disaster, and unfortunately he lives in a time

> where substance means @#$%& all, and playing well

> to the cameras / microphone means everything.

I don't disagree with that, but I think Labour chose him because they thought he did look good on screen, and when you take that away there's not enough substance to carry him through either (compared say with Gordon Brown during the referendum; he was never that great visually but that speech was more powerful than anything the current leaders did). I don't have a TV so my impression of Miliband in action is based on radio, where he has always sounded less substantial than Cameron et al. Looks like a nice guy, though.

[ultraburner]

Best thing I've seen in ages, thanks Jah!

And yes, Boris.

[titch juicy]

Boris? Why?

[Robert Poste's Child]

Balls, in my view. None of the others has any.

[Mick Mac]

Otta Wrote:

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> I think Ed Miliband is a decent man and I think he

> has some good ideas, I just think he's a media

> disaster, and unfortunately he lives in a time

> where substance means @#$%& all, and playing well

> to the cameras / microphone means everything.

If you shit on your own brother's obvious career aspirations, you are likely a shit person.

Decent... ? No.

[Jah Lush]

Salsaboy Wrote:

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> Boris, Boris, Boris.

That really is a nightmare vision.

Like the shock of fondling a raw sausage, blindfold, at a gay party.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Boris's crest is probably a sausage rampant.

[Salsaboy]

Why would a raw sausage be blindfolded?

What RPC said, Balls. He's got the cojones to push things through under the guise of his bumbling not quite with it persona. Beneath the public village idiot lies a razor sharp brain.

[El Pibe]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> If you shit on your own brother's obvious career

> aspirations, you are likely a shit person.

>

> Decent... ? No.

I dunno, I think that was a principled stand.

He obviously had no time for Blairites/sm, was immediate to distance the party from all that and saw his brother as the head of a faction that wanted to drag Labour deeper into the mire.

I don't think it was personal, I'm sure they still get on better than your Hitchens did (whilst they were both alive and stuff).

[Jah Lush]

Salsaboy Wrote:

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> Why would a raw sausage be blindfolded?

You're reading it wrong.

[Otta]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Mick Mac Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > If you shit on your own brother's obvious

> career

> > aspirations, you are likely a shit person.

> >

> > Decent... ? No.

>

> I dunno, I think that was a principled stand.

> He obviously had no time for Blairites/sm, was

> immediate to distance the party from all that and

> saw his brother as the head of a faction that

> wanted to drag Labour deeper into the mire.

> I don't think it was personal, I'm sure they still

> get on better than your Hitchens did (whilst they

> were both alive and stuff).

Agreed. He took on his broither because he believed he was better to take the party forward. His brother probably would have played the part better, but any Blairite can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.