Where to go after East Dulwich?

[Alan Medic]

I was thinking of El Portil in Spain.

[MrBen]

@NewDad - good post above from you fella...nice summary.

[LondonMix]

I only meant he wasn't someone who would think a place was rough just because the patrons weren't rich and it wasn't a gastropub. Nothing more than that.

I'm American so don't easily fall into the British class system. Sorry if after all these years I've made a faux pas.

Anyway, back on topic. Friends of mine have moved to Eltham recently and while they don't love it, its fine and so cheap compared to this area.

KidKruger Wrote:

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> what DaveR said.

>

> LM - What's with the hint on working class having

> a more accurate definition of rough ?! When I

> lived on IOW we used to go to Cowes during Cowes

> week to scrap the yachties, they were pretty tough

> guys and very few working class amongst them (at

> least in the big posh marquee / club where we

> traded with them). They certainly hit hard and

> were no strangers to (wait for it) 'a good old

> fashioned punch-up'. So I don't buy that for a

> second, however romantic it may seem.

[Otta]

Unless it's changed beyond recognition in the last 5 years, there are still far too many really unpleasant white people in Eltham for.my liking.

[easytiger]

There was a whole page on Penge in Timeout this week. It has great shops opening, has great transport links and good sized family houses at still a reasonable price. It's a good place to get in to now or invest in.

[Sue]

Otta Wrote:

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> The Lord Palmerston was never rough in my opinion.

> I didn't particularly like it, but it wasn't what

> I'd call rough.

>

> Only pubs I remember having a bit of a bad rep

> back in the 90s were The Castle and The Mag.

The Uplands Tavern (as it was then) was quite rough. Frequent fights, if I recall.

Now The Actress :)

ETA: Ooops, sorry admin, just seen your post. As you were ....

[Norfolkvillas]

@ednewmy you mention you're looking as far as Woolwich - it might be worth checking out Plumstead Common - just about walking distance (or short bus ride) from forthcoming Crossrail, some lovely Victorian housing stock, green spaces (Plumstead Common, Shrewsbury Park) and a community festival (Plumstead Make Merry) that I believe has been running 40 years. I think SE18 was recently identified as being London's cheapest postcode... might be worth considering if you can handle the fact that it's a bit of a pain to get to until Crossrail arrives in 2018...

[LondonMix]

We've been 6 times since they moved in but always socialise at their house so can't really say what the people are like. There was a man clearly out of his mind on the bus once but in general the people seem normal enough as I get from the station to their house.

Otta Wrote:

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> Unless it's changed beyond recognition in the last

> 5 years, there are still far too many really

> unpleasant white people in Eltham for.my liking.

[Otta]

I'm biased from the times I used to do home visits on the Coldharbour estate. People used to be openly racist and just think that I'd be on side. My mate used to police that estate, and all the non white families desperately wanted to be moved elsewhere because of the abuse they got. Stephen Lawrence country, and lots hasn't changed anywhere near enough since.

Shame, because there are also nice things about Eltham, and some great houses, but that would just put me off considering it.

[Zebedee Tring]

Stephen Lawrence murderer country more like it. But this accords with my memory of Eltham.

[Otta]

Well yeah, that's what I meant.

[????]

Welling-Eltham, full of racist wankers

[LondonMix]

Fair enough. My family which is interracial has never suffered any abuse while there but honestly its been so few times I can't really say that people of color living there wouldn't have a hard time. A friend of mines sister lives there and she is mixed race. Next time I see her, I'll ask if she's ever experienced any trouble. I do think women often have an easier time with racism anyway though. Men tend to get my open abuse.

[monica]

i moved to Shirley, and its a delight. Down the road from Beckenham, which is stunning, and the high street, is great. And house prices, still very affordable.

[theboycj]

anyone else made the move to catford or norwood junction? Have some friends who are first time buyers looking at these areas

[elloriac]

We have friends who moved to Catford, they love it (tho they are Blythe Hill side)

Great transport links & the Catford Constitutional Club for drinking :)

[Zena]

I'd look at the links that come with cross rail - Charlton, Woolwich, Royal Arsenal or even out to Abbey Wood. That's where the best investment areas/bargains are predicted.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Zena Wrote:

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> I'd look at the links that come with cross rail -

> Charlton, Woolwich, Royal Arsenal or even out to

> Abbey Wood. That's where the best investment

> areas/bargains are predicted.

I guess that depends on whether it's an investment property, or a home. Personally, I'd look to live in an area you like and which is convenient for work, friends, familly etc.

[LondonMix]

Exactly Rahrahrah. If they are buying a flat and hoping to make enough money to buy a house elsewhere, fair enough but if its your family home, I'd definitely prioritize someplace I like over investment potential

[marcushessenberg]

I am making a documentary on Peckham at the moment and looking for contributors who moved from ED to Peckham - anyone willing to share their experience?

Thanks!

Marcus

[email protected]

[aileking]

I moved to South Norwood. The people are lovely, the transport is brilliant (11 min London Bridge to Norwood Junction) and I've never felt unsafe. I'm happy with the local pub and a nice caf? opened in Stanley Halls. And best of all the property I bought is way better than what I could afford in other some of the other areas I looked (which in the end is where you spend most of your time). I also looked at Catford which I'm sure I would have been happy with too, but South Norwood was better for the budget (could get 2 bed houses for about ?300K about two years ago but now they are closer to the ?350K mark).

[poppet27]

Is New Cross out of your price range? The art college allows a good, young vibe.

I personally didn't like Annerly when we looked round - felt like the end of the earth.

I think S Norwood will get real CP and Beckenham overspill eventually, but that's just a hunch.

Do let us know how you get on!

[midivydale]

We were looking at a house towards bromley when a white van pulled up and the driver started doing monkey chants and gestures towards my black husband and our then 20 month old baby...It broke my heart, absolutely killed me to have my amazing other half and tiny baby violated like that. Still makes me teary 2yrs on. We swiftly got back in the car and drove home to peckham. I am staying here, cramped as it is in our tiny flat, we are safe from those racist bigots.

Welling/Eltham def out on the same grounds.

[Sue]

midivydale Wrote:

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> We were looking at a house towards bromley when a

> white van pulled up and the driver started doing

> monkey chants and gestures towards my black

> husband and our then 20 month old baby...It broke

> my heart, absolutely killed me to have my amazing

> other half and tiny baby violated like that. Still

> makes me teary 2yrs on. We swiftly got back in the

> car and drove home to peckham. I am staying here,

> cramped as it is in our tiny flat, we are safe

> from those racist bigots.

> Welling/Eltham def out on the same grounds.

That's awful :(

However the vile driver may not have lived there, I suppose. Unfortunately there are probably a few people like that everywhere :( however I can completely understand why you wouldn't want to move there.

[midivydale]

Of course Sue, tou are right. Although i must admit it did without a doubt put me off. We know the area the driver was based (well where his van was from at least. The van was branded so a quick google gave us a good idea (and made reporting the police alot easier).