irish political knowledge

[SteveT]

Which Englishman in the last 100 years was considered capable of creating a united Ireland,

had he chosen to stand as the leader?

There is a free pint of Guinness to the first person who gets it.

[Mick Mac]

Probably not what you are looking for but Winston Churchill had the chance to create a United Ireland when as Foreign Secretary in 1920 he had the chance to concede Ireland to the Irish, but instead created a separate state of Northern Ireland and the rest is history.

[SteveT]

An educated historical stab at it, but he's not the one Mick Mac.

I'm sure you will kick yourself when the answer pops up.

[Jimbob]

stand as the leader of what?

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Norman Wisdom. Or was that Albania?

[SteveT]

Leader of all Ireland Jimbob.

PGC how nice to talk to you again dear.

I thought it was Rumania, as they hadn't been allowed to see any films beyond the early sixties.

[taper]

oswald mosley?

[dulwichmum]

Oh SteveT dear. How very ethnic! Was it the Rev Ian Paisley?

[HonaloochieB]

Shane MacGowan. I claim my pint and a Jameson's chaser too. A large one if it's all the same to you.

Though the Guinness can be a small pint.

Thanks.

[LegalEagle-ish]

Give us a clue.

[mattham]

Was it Jack Charlton?

[Narnia]

When was there ever an election that could have united Ireland? Was Michael Collins born in England?

[PeckhamRose]

Mo Mowlem? Oh - you said male. Sorry.

[Narnia]

Is this question not the equivalent of asking who could put Humpty Dumpty together again having pushed him off the wall in the first place?

[Mick Mac]

I feel the clue may be in the "100 years" something that happened between 1900-1920???

[LordLane]

tony blair

[Narnia]

Is this him?

The one third from the right. Remind me of his name please...........

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Declan Wrote:

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> Is this him?

>

> The one third from the right. Remind me of his

> name please...........

Very Good Declan!

I'm pretty sure The Englishman in question in that 1920 picture is Martin Chivers, who went on to play many games for Tottenham Hotspurs 70 years later, though I may be mistaken...

[candj]

SteveT, WHO? I've been wracking my brain along with my Irish husband and we can't come up with anyone.... When you say "had he chosen to stand as leader" does that mean he was never in public office? Ie, not de Valera (born in America anyway), Michael Collins... who? Tony Blair is the best answer we can give, but he's been in public office and he's too busy with the ME these days. Lloyd George? Unite how, in politics or football?

[giggirl]

Gladstone?

[dulwichmum]

Oliver Cromwell?

[candj]

Dear DM,

Oliver Cromwell and Ireland shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence, let alone same EDF thread! And he's not in the last 100 years.... He may have been good for England but no where else!

edited to correct grammar inhibited by the chinese new year champagne!

[dulwichmum]

OHMYGOD! I apologise profusely. I have no idea at all about Irish history. I am of Argentinian parentage afterall. I was just trying to be down with the kids...

[candj]

Dear DM, OHMYGOD, it's quite alright!! I don't know anything about English history OR Irish history for that matter, I'm just guessing.

[dulwichmum]

I would sooo hate to offend any of the lovely Paddies on the EDF (sigh).