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Dopamine1979 Wrote:

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> I remember reading somewhere that the whole macho

> image of lager was a deliberate marketing strategy

> in the 80s/90's as they were generally considered

> girly drinks prior to that.


It was definitely considered a bit 'poncey' by the older generation.

"cut my teeth on bitter, greene king dominated, adnams was often available and couple of places did tolly cobbold up my way"


It sounds like you grew up not far from me. Did you ever drink 'brain damage' - a half of Abbot Ale and a bottle of St Edmunds barely wine?

Heineken is the definitive beer of the euro traveller. Whether you're stuck at Schipol, on the Eurostar or watching Scotland in Bari it's always on tap.


Tbh I'm indifferent to most lagers and can't get overly excited about super hoppy craft beers either. I much prefer short strong drinks these days without the gas. A Negroni or a Manhattan in a tumbler with some ice. And then for afters whisky of pretty much any description. Call me a ponce but that's just how it is.

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> Bottled Lowenbrau imported from Germany back in

> the early 70's and drunk at the Grove Tavern in

> Camberwell was a favourite of mine, as was Tooheys

> and Swan lager when they were imported from Oz.

> Very nice when served cold. Fosters and

> Castlemaine Four X used to be decent when it was

> brewed in Oz and exported to the UK, also back in

> the 70's.


Yes I used to drink the Lowenbrau at the Grove. Good times (especially during world and european cups). Schlitz was a favourite too. Now I'm old and a convert to craft ales.

Otta Wrote:

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> You old bastards!!!


And proud of it. The Grove was great place to drink in the early 70's up until the early to mid 80's by then many of the regulars started to use the pub that had opened in Denmark Hill station ticket office. It's never been the same since, despite numerous attempts to drum up new business and renaming the place on many ocassions, its never been as busy or as atmospheric as it was.

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> I remember it being full of art students and a

> smattering of local celebs in the mid 70s right up

> until the early 90s. Closing time we'd all nip

> down to "The Spanish" for after hours drinks and

> other substances. Loved it in those days.


Bob Mortimer used to drink in there quite a bit and you're right it was full of art students, plus many of those that worked in Kings College, my wife being one of them back then.

Yeah, used to see Bob in there quite a lot, he'd go to the Spanish too. Others would be The Comic Strip writers Peter Richardson and Pete Richens, (who an old friend of mine married) Robbie Coltrane, Jenny ?clair and a few others, musicians, writers, actors. Nurses too. I went out with half a dozen of 'em.. Most of whom lived on Camberwell Grove so it was a very convenient watering hole for them.
The Grove was brilliant for football in the little bar. It's where I saw most of Italia 90, inc the gutting semi final. Bob Mortimer, Vic Reeves, Robbie Coltrane, Joe Jackson all popping in. I remember a couple of brilliant Christmas Eve sing songs with everyone belting out carols.

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