Cash to make East Dulwich safer?

[Mikecg]

My dear old dad said to me the other day, "People paid atleast ?10000 over the odds to live around here, it doesnt make sence" LOL!

Not everybody is a snob Honk, but there are a lot around here. And for what, a 3 bed terraced house on the arse end of peckham.

[FelicityNormal]

honk Wrote:

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> By 'white' I meant 'middle class', it's a saying

> where I - oh, never mind.

Bizarre

[ruffers]

What's an alert box?

[Huguenot]

Yarp, I got that too, Felicity.

It seems that racism is alive and thriving in Honk. How does it feel Honk mate, to hate someone for the colour of their skin?

[Mick Mac]

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> and with the'leaverage' you can buy 10 sticks and

> repeat the process all over again and we'll all be

> wealthier for ever...

Brendan. I have reviewed your sticks and imost of them are good solid sticks so i have given your bunch a AAA stick rating. Sure, some of the bunch are small and useless but who cares, put the big ones on the outside and you can get a good price for those sticks, noone will notice the little sticks on the inside. By the time your buyer discovers the little sticks, you will be long gone mate.

[Brendan]

They're on sale at Franklins for 11 quid a bunch.

[honk]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> Yarp, I got that too, Felicity.

>

> It seems that racism is alive and thriving in

> Honk. How does it feel Honk mate, to hate someone

> for the colour of their skin?

I'm not even going to answer such a pointless comment.

[Huguenot]

I don't see how it's pointless Honk, you're the only person on this thread who has suggested that skin colour should be a reasonable criteria for crime prevention investment.

If you don't want people to draw the logical conclusion that skin colour is a major influence in your dealings with people, then you're going the wrong way about it.

[Keef]

Going way back to honk's first post, not sure why you mentioned colour at all, but I see nothing remotely racist about it, people read in to things what they want. My initial reaction was similar, but of course we don't know what has been spent elsewhere.

[James Barber]

Take a look at the East Dulwich Police Safer Neighbourhood Team newsletter:

ED SNT Newsletter

That money I arranged has helped to see a dramatic reduction in household burglary, a dramatic reduction in shop crime.

We're looking at further ideas.

The East Dulwich Lib Dem cllrs want East Dulwich to became one of the very lowest crime ward in London.

One request the Police often make to me is they wish people would report crime and other intelligence to them so they have the big picture of what is happening locally.

Let them know:

020 8721 2447

[email protected]

Regards james barber

Liberal Democrat councillor for East Dulwich

[TheePope]

Thanks for telling us what you arranged councillor.

Could you please also explain how much money was spent on installing Help Points around the Borough which were never functional and have recently been removed at great expense?

Was that your idea too?

[James Barber]

Hi Theehope,

The talking help points.

These were not my idea.

However, when this was originally mooted I was expecting the successful idea of existing CCTV cameras to have have micrphones and speakers added. CCTV computers programmed to recognise certain noise profiles which indicate a problem and then the CCTV operator tells the perpetrator they are being recorded and 9/10 times they stop.

Unfortunately this was not what was project managed.

I'm afraid I don't remember the exact sums but it was around sixty something thousand pounds for something like 20 help points around the borough. One was next to the pizza place next to East Dulwich station.

It appears one of those cases where a government grant was available. This carrot was bitten without thinking through the consequences. The current executive councillor Linda Manchester is wise enough to avoid such pitfalls.

But Theehope what do you think would reduce crime in East Dulwich. We've given out over 1,000 property marking kits (1 in 5 households), every shop has an Alertbox. What should we do next?

[macroban]

> That money I arranged has helped to see a dramatic reduction in household burglary, a dramatic reduction in shop crime.

I'd like to see the data that support this assertion.

[woofmarkthedog]

Yeah... but no but aren't more Acado vans being held up though?

Obviously by Boden wearing stripy topped "Baddies"......

"Look just hand over the Balsamic & the Extra virgin cold pressed....Now! or i'll biff your nose in"

Police are looking for a man wearing trodden down espadrilles and salmon coloured cords.

Race unknown.

[James Barber]

Hi macroban,

If you google 'talking cctv cameras' you get loads of stuff:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6524495.stm

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news/talking-cctv

The schemes implimented so far don't seem to have sufficient scale to prove anything eitherway. Equally they generally are aimed at reducing low level anti social behaviour that isn't reliably recorded such as instances of littering.

[mia]

open your eyes ED is full of crime and its getting worse, so any thing that makes me and my children safer can only be a good thing!!!!!!

[Sue]

mia Wrote:

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> open your eyes ED is full of crime and its getting

> worse, so any thing that makes me and my children

> safer can only be a good thing!!!!!!

xxxxxxx

Evidence please

[thexwinglessxbird]

My brother gets mugged every day. Last night chased by three black boys screaming ''Get him! Get his bike!''. That is my evidence of ED being full of crime & getting worse. Generally speaking, the stabbing that happened on LL, people on this forum who have been jumped & robbed of their ipods & phones...

Just saying, you've gotta be pretty stupid if you need convincing that ED is in fact getting worse. If you bothered to get out more, you'd probably find sooner or later you'll be one of the victims.

[????]

good old anectdotal evidence again...taxi driver stuff

[red devil]

in my experience you can't get anecdotal evidence sarf of the river...

[Sue]

thexwinglessxbird Wrote:

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> Just saying, you've gotta be pretty stupid if you

> need convincing that ED is in fact getting worse.

> If you bothered to get out more, you'd probably

> find sooner or later you'll be one of the victims.

xxxxxxxxx

Can't decide whether or not this is a joke.

Is it?

[Huguenot]

"My brother gets mugged every day"

That was irony right? ;-)

[Vik]

thexwinglessxbird Wrote:

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> My brother gets mugged every day.

My thoughts go out to your brother who it would seem is the unluckiest person in the world.

> Just saying, you've gotta be pretty stupid if you

> need convincing that ED is in fact getting worse.

> If you bothered to get out more, you'd probably

> find sooner or later you'll be one of the victims.

I and my entire family have been 'getting out' in ED for many many years and none of us have been mugged, stabbed or shot.

I do believe that crime is an issue in London, I do not believe (and will not until someone shows me some hard evidence) that it is on the increase, before this forum, you may well have not heard about all the incidents, this does not mean that they weren't happening.

[sophiesofa]

Brilliant post Vik, I completely agree.

[Sue]

I also agree.

What agenda is behind this scaremongering? Not the first time on this forum, and never any hard facts to back it up.