Who do you think is in The Clique?

[El Pibe]

I'm not sure moderators give a viewpoint do they?

But loving your work, just enough smatering of truth in your strawmen to be convincing, just enough earnestness in your holier-than-thou schtick to be plausible, and a little flourish of flounce.

One would almost think you were practiced at provoking a reaction.

Where was that bridge building school you went to you say ;)

[Robert Poste's Child]

You really are horrible sometimes, El Pibe.

[Otta]

I'm confused. We're you having a go at EP or Steveo?

Didn't EP post that at Sue's request? I think EP was pretty much on the line or maybe a bit over it, but context is everything, and the Macann thread was pretty ghoulish.

[Sue]

Otta Wrote:

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> I'm confused. We're you having a go at EP or

> Steveo?

>

> Didn't EP post that at Sue's request? I think EP

> was pretty much on the line or maybe a bit over

> it, but context is everything, and the Macann

> thread was pretty ghoulish.

Yes EP did post it here at my request.

If he removed it, then I think he should repost it so that everybody can see it and make up their own minds. If a mod removed it, then it would seem that they also consider it offensive.

"Context is everything"? Personally I cannot see a context which would reduce the offensiveness of that particular post, but perhaps you could explain.

"The McCann thread was pretty ghoulish"?

I posted factual information about an ongoing case in which I had a long-term interest.

I was then attacked on a personal level by a number of people who apparently had not even bothered to check whether what I posted was true (as evidenced by police files in the public domain rather than the rubbish printed in the mainstream media).

Let's see what the outcome of the Scotland Yard/Portuguese investigation is, shall we? I have said that I don't intend to post about the case again on here until such time as (hopefully) somebody/some people are prosecuted, and I am sticking to my word.

No idea if it was a clique involved in the attacks on me, but it wasn't very nice and it included several prominent forum members.

[Sue]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> .

>

> dotted by request.

>

> Sue an apology of sorts was offered, though i

> still don't think it remotely offensive if you

> read it in context.

>

> transcript available on request.

Who requested you to dot it? Not me.

I don't recall "an apology of sorts" being offered. Why "of sorts"? There should have been a full and proper apology if you felt that one was necessary, though if you didn't think it "remotely offensive" then I don't know why you did.

Frankly, if you don't find something like that remotely offensive, I find it quite worrying.

[StraferJack]

So... That original thread from which el pibe quoted.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,587735,page=1

His comments which several people think crossed a line come 4 or 5 pages in

But if you read that far and think HIS comments are the worrying aspect of that thread...

PS 4+ years later and despite sue furnishing the world with her evidence, still no child.

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> So... That original thread from which el pibe

> quoted.

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?2

> 0,587735,page=1

>

> His comments which several people think crossed a

> line come 4 or 5 pages in

>

> But if you read that far and think HIS comments

> are the worrying aspect of that thread...

>

> PS 4+ years later and despite sue furnishing the

> world with her evidence, still no child.

It's not "my" evidence. It's evidence from the original police investigation.

And so it continues.

ETA: Which is why I won't discuss this case further on here.

[StraferJack]

Is that McCann forum still going sue?

Do you still spend hours on it? Or even visit for a peek?

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Is that McCann forum still going sue?

>

> Do you still spend hours on it? Or even visit for

> a peek?

I rest my case. I think you're rather proving a point.

But by all means use this thread to attack me further. I'm off it.

[StraferJack]

Sorry. What case is that?

You say you won't discuss it on here so i am politely asking if you keep abreast or even discuss it anywhere.

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Sorry. What case is that?

>

> You say you won't discuss it on here so i am

> politely asking if you keep abreast or even

> discuss it anywhere.

The case I'm resting is that certain forum posters, including evidently yourself, like to goad people.

"Politely asking" - yeh, really relevant question, isn't it, after I've just said I won't continue to discuss the McCann case on here.

Or maybe you missed that bit.

I'm not looking at this thread again, so feel free to continue to goad.

And I'm sure that mods will be able to tell if I have looked, so - I shall keep my word.

[StraferJack]

You see. I ask simple questions. No name calling. No attacking.

But the accusations come - "attack me further"

You asked for El pibe to repost his comments and I linked to the original thread. How have I attacked you?

[StraferJack]

I didn't miss anything. I accept you aren't going to discuss it on here. What I asked was if you discuss it anywhere else. Like that forum dedicated to the McCanns you mentioned before.

You might or might not. But asking isn't attacking

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> You see. I ask simple questions. No name calling.

> No attacking.

>

> But the accusations come - "attack me further"

>

>

> You asked for El pibe to repost his comments and I

> linked to the original thread. How have I

> attacked you?

This post crossed with mine.

I'll let somebody else answer. I'm sure they will.

Goading can be quite subtle, can't it, or maybe your ideas are akin to El Pibe's on what is and is not remotely offensive.

I'm off. Although I see somebody else has posted, but I'm not going to read that one.

[Louisa]

The trouble with a thread like this is it can go off at tangents and confuse everyone else. I know this thread is slightly indulgent for the long term regulars to let off steam about past events, but it would be nice if some more recent members could join in and let us know how they feel on the forum and whether a clique has ever felt apparent to them?

Louisa.

[????]

Yup, agree. Showing the worse face of the forum....thanks Otta

[steveo]

Stand away from the mouse

[????]

There was meant to be a smiley after that!

[Otta]

Re: The Truth of the Lie - the McCann case

Posted by Keef 22 December, 2010 21:36

Okay. sue, you're like a dog with a rubber bone here, you'll get nothing from it. And DJ, as usual, you're trying to show off your debating skills here, but you're just repeating your self. Let it go everyone.

That Keef bloke was pretty wise and stuff. Plus he called MockneyPiers (whoever that was) a drama queen. Haha.

[El Pibe]

We had that pint though!

It was sick in every sense of the word though, got a bit het up, what can I say.

[Seabag]

steveo Wrote:k

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> Stand away from the mouse

I'm in the i-pad clique

I have no rodent/mouse to stand away from

*points finger, and prods screen

[Blah Blah]

I just read the link to the thread. That is a truly awful thread and Sue, you should be ashamed of it, not defiantly crying foul. The post from El Pibe is not the thing that is the problem there imo. I don't know if you were having a bad day at the time but that is just the worst example of 'dog with a bone' I've seen on a forum, over an issue that is extremely sensitive.

And if you have got yourself into scrapes like that, the worst thing you can do is drag them up. It will only drive you round the bend and probably everyone else too. Let it go.

[Seabag]

Just add wine

It livens up many a thread

[minder]

Blah blah I don't think Sue has dragged the thread up but somebody else who seemed intent on it. Extremely sensitive threads have been dragged up on the forum since it began.

I'm sure there will be many more in 4 plus years time that the EDF (if it's still going) will be playing host to and everybody will be looking back on!

[Otta]

Foil Gras?