Should i MMR vaccinate my child?

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

I think its YOUR decision.

http://www.mommypotamus.com/should-vaccines-be-mandatory/

My GP is superb and recommended a delayed schedule for my child.

[sanity girl]

Thank you for this.

Administrator Wrote:

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> I don't usually stick my nose in here but it's

> important. Please look at the facts including

> http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/pages/mm

> r-vaccine.aspx

>

> People have a tendency to ignore the facts in

> front of them if they have a doubt, they may

> believe a made up hearsay story vs evidence based

> facts. It's how newspapers make people read their

> stories, if a bad thing happens to 1 person in a

> million they'll report that bad story so you have

> an emotional attachment and you think it could

> happen to you. Remember you are more likely to be

> in the 999,999 group.

>

> So please take stories from a stranger on a forum

> of "I know someone who was paralysed by it" in

> it's true context, look how many people are for

> it, including the medical bodies and then make a

> logical decision. If there was a measles outbreak

> in East Dulwich and a child died because a parent

> made the wrong decision because of what they read

> on the the forum I would be probably close the

> forum down.

[Administrator]

TE44 - I am saying that people should make an informed decision based on facts. You "do not believe anyone questioning

vaccines would make a decision by only reading on here" however the original poster asked the question "Should i MMR vaccinate my child?" and so I assume they are looking for advice to help them make a decision. I want them to make the right decision about vaccinating their child based on evidence, not anecdotal talk without references.

It is difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff as it is a forum for people to have a chat and discuss things, I am just trying to keep it real.

[sillywoman]

prunellabutterworth Wrote:

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> BellendenBelle - your negative spiteful comments

> were not! keep out of the forum if you have

> nothing but cruel, spiteful and negative comments

> about other users. Your not appreciated or wanted

> on here.

Actually you are very wrong there. Bellendenbelle is a long time poster on this forum and in these discussions. On the whole his/her posts are articulate, rational, helpful and well informed. I see nothing spiteful or cruel in what she has posted. I wondered myself whether the post she referred to was someone 'trolling' as it was an odd post for a forum newbie - but hey, there are some odd folks out there clearly. Bellendenbelle is a valuable and well respected forumite whose posts are both wanted and appreciated, as I'm sure yours are too, by someone. Though as a newcomer yourself you might do well to reign it in a bit.

Minder wrote:

"OK Sillywoman, maybe the word 'insist' might be the wrong word but no need to make a big deal of it!"

Sorry, didn't mean to sound so vehement in my post. Just worried that someone who normally posts such sensible advice might be thinking that a doctor could insist on you doing anything to your child. Apologies Minder.

[david_carnell]

DaveR Wrote:

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> In many countries, school entry is conditional on

> a child having completed a defined course of

> vaccination. A sensible policy which IMHO should

> be introduced in the UK.

Agreed. I'd also consider banning parents from all other nhs services if they opt not to immunise as well as striking them off their GP's list

[Gubodge]

happypuppy Wrote:

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> There is an

> argument for and against with not enough evidence

> on either side,

That's not actually the case though, is it? On one side there is plenty of evidence; on the other there is disproved studies and anecdata.

[TE44]

Admin,I think the problem with keeping it real on

This subject is that many people, cannot understand that although other peoples reality may

Not be yours this does not stop you from understanding and respecting there views.As you can see many people feel the choice should be taken away (not on here).

Opposition from vaccines is not new, since first

mandatory vaccine. I can't help wonder how much

Would bave been brought to light or if vaccine

Damage would have been recognised without this

Opposion. To accept there should be no choice

Whilst so much corruption goes on is hard for me to understand but I understand the fear.

[LondonMix]

DaveR Wrote:

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> In many countries, school entry is conditional on

> a child having completed a defined course of

> vaccination. A sensible policy which IMHO should

> be introduced in the UK.

That's the policy in most but not in all of the US. Where it isn't policy there have been outbreaks.

I'd suggest anyone weighing up this decision not only consider the risks to their own child but the greater risk to the community. Herd immunity is an important way we protect ourselves and the most vulnerable in our community (ie those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons) free from preventable disease.

[sillywoman]

OP, the current evidence says that there is no link between autism and MMR vaccination. None. Even Dr Andrew Wakefield - the guy who first proposed a link, and has since had both his methodology, his ethics and his conclusions widely discredited, and has himself been struck off - has stated that there is no link.

In your life as a parent every thing you do, and will do carries risks for you and for your children. Weigh up the risks of them contracting measles, mumps or rubella, and the risk of that illness causing them, or those close to them (in the case of german measles) long term damage or death, against the risks of them suffering an adverse response to the vaccine. Then draw your own conclusions.

I dunno if this will link properly, but Upworthy have an infographic explanation of the current debate (though, to give fair warning, it does have a bias toward vaccination). The run-down of the issues is a good starting place IMO.

http://www.upworthy.com/dad-took-blood-samples-at-his-kids-birthday-party-and-thats-not-the-worst-part-ah2-7b?c=ufb1

[Saffron]

EastDulwichRose Wrote:

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> Thanks for the advise everyone (i'm still no

> wiser!) main concern was Autism linked to MMR.

As there is copious evidence that MMR does not cause autism, could you state specifically what it is that you're "no wiser" about? Other concern(s)?

> But

> i done some research and read peoples views.

> I still have a little time to consider and make my

> decision.

What research did you do? Could you post some links to the types of research you considered, so that we could all have a look? It might help people address your concerns/questions more directly and objectively. xx

[Kes]

OP it's totally understandable that you would have worries about this there is so much information and misinformation floating about.

But please do vaccinate your kids. There was one small study suggesting the link. There have been many many huge studies which have proven it wrong. In addition it has come out that the man behind that one study used horribly unethical methods and subjected children to invasive procedures for no good reason. He also pocketed tens of thousands of pounds by manipulating research to aid a legal case against a vaccine company and was planning to release his own single vaccine alternative (for yet more profit) once he had scared everyone off the rival MMR. The MMR scare wasn't about the safety of children it was about making money for a single, very unpleasent individual. Sadly the media gave the impression that there was a lot of uncertainty when there wasn't and a lot more people jumped on the bandwagon of selling alternative vaccine schedules, single vaccines, alternative treatments etc. making themselves a tidy profit and perpetuating parents' fears.

On a personal note, I had measles. It was utterly horrible. Thankfully I suffered no long term harm from it but I had to lie in a darkened room with sunglasses on as my eyes could'nt bear any light and went on to develop a chest infection that required antibiotics which made me sick. Even if there was no potential for long term harm from measles I would still vaccinate my kids to spare them from that.

By all means do your own research but be careful about where you get your information and if those giving it actually know what they are talking about or may have some other motives.

edited to add - in case that wasn't long enough already here's a longer ramble on the subject on my blog: http://southwarkbelle.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/im-writing-this-in-response-to-blog.html