The Palmerston (Lounged)

[louisiana]

Moos Wrote:

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> louisiana Wrote:

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> > So how long have you been working at The

> > Palmerston, Jeremy?

>

> Louisiana, play the game. You know perfectly well

> that Jeremy doesn't work for the Palmerston.

I have no idea. Where does he work? I've never met him etc. But he's certainly doing some good plugging right now, with all that talk of port and coffees. Who for chrissake drinks port with pub grub? Echoes of the Vale I'm afraid, just sounds like a member of staff.

[MsJ]

Intelligent conversation I can handle, but bitchy comments suggesting people have ulterior motives just makes this forum read like a joke! My flipant comment was a result of reading too many pointless posts from seemingly irate people telling other people that their 'opinions' are wrong! An opinion cannot, by it's nature, be wrong.

[Jeremy]

Louisiana - at first I thought you were just a bit arrogant. Now I think you're a sandwich short of a picnic.

[louisiana]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Louisiana - at first I thought you were just a bit

> arrogant. Now I think you're a sandwich short of a

> picnic.

So where do you work, Jeremy?

[louisiana]

And do you really drink port in The Palmerston?

[louisiana]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Louisiana - at first I thought you were just a bit

> arrogant. Now I think you're a sandwich short of a

> picnic.

I just like my food. That's all.

[TJ]

FoodStories Wrote:

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> TJ - Do you think that four slices of barely cm

> thick monkfish on crushed peas with sauce is worth

> ?17? If you do then I really can't take you

> seriously. Again, I was not complaining about the

> quality or freshness of the ingredients - I agree

> they were good. What I am saying is that the

> portions are ridiculous and to swamp white

> crabmeat in a pool of Thai dressing like that

> shows a serious misunderstanding of the ingredient

> by the chef in my opinion. I've got no problem

> with the drinks prices either.

>

> It seems opinions are very mixed here anyway,

> which is interesting.

Actually, i don't think ?17 is that bad. I am quite happy to hit those prices for good cooking - which it is.

You see, the difference is that this is a destination venue - not just a locals place. That is what the herne does. Go to anywhere serving that quality / size of food and you would pay the same. The customer who goes out to eat once in a blue moon (maybe like you) doesn't get it. Oh, and its full most of the time - which tells you its doing ok.

[FoodStories]

MsJ - I agree, in that case I have misunderstood you. I can certainly relate to the point about suggesting people have ultierior motives as I was at the end of them! All I wanted to do here was start a discussion and people were immediately pouncing on me the first time I've ever posted.

[TJ]

louisiana Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

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> > *Bob* Wrote:

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> > > When we've been to the P'ston the bill was

> > around

> > > ?80 - ?100 for two.

> > >

> > > In terms of price, that puts it right up

> there

> > > with just about anywhere in London you'd care

> > to

> > > try out. And the food (quality, quantity)

> > simply

> > > didn't justify the price last time I was

> there,

> > so

> > > yes, I'm put-off returning. At least for the

> > > present.

> > >

> > > I'll make a few concessions for it being five

> > > minutes walk, but not ?100-worth.

> >

> > "Around ?80-?100" is a pretty big margin! But I

> > can see you mind spend around ?80 if you have

> > desserts and coffee. Maybe ?100 if you'd had

> > dessert wine, port or whatever.

>

> I seem to recall the bill was north of 80 with

> only one dessert between two, no coffees (which I

> never order and my partner doesn't drink), no wine

> and 3.5 beers etc.

>

> So how long have you been working at The

> Palmerston, Jeremy?

>

>

> >

> > I also disagree that the price is up there with

> > just about "anywhere in London you'd care to

> try

> > out", ?80 is really not expensive for a decent

> > meal these days.

>

> Indeed it isn't. when the food is up there too.

> I don't mind spending ?150-200, if the food is up

> to scratch.

Bitch!

[TJ]

Can i suggest the originator has a read of her colleagues reviews and maybe considers she may be on her own here.

http://www.thepalmerston.net/reviews/

[MsJ]

Yes, sorry Food Stories - I can see how my post looked like a direct attack on you - not how was it intended I can assure you.

[Jeremy]

Yep... FoodStories, I hope nobody has offended you, and that you continue posting on here!

[DaveR]

I like the Palmerston. I've never had a bad meal there, always thought it was pretty good value, and always had adequate service, although I wouldn't say that's their strongest suit. I'm not keen on the Herne - I like their aspirations but imo they are not organised enough to deliver. I also like Franklins, although again I wouldn't say their service is great, and on occasions I've not found many menu dishes that really appealed - that's just my taste, I guess.

However, what I really f*cking hate is when someone comes on here and slags of anybody who disagrees with them, in a sneery and childish way, and simultaneously tries to elevate their own subjective judgment into received wisdom.

[TJ]

DaveR Wrote:

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> I like the Palmerston. I've never had a bad meal

> there, always thought it was pretty good value,

> and always had adequate service, although I

> wouldn't say that's their strongest suit. I'm not

> keen on the Herne - I like their aspirations but

> imo they are not organised enough to deliver. I

> also like Franklins, although again I wouldn't say

> their service is great, and on occasions I've not

> found many menu dishes that really appealed -

> that's just my taste, I guess.

>

> However, what I really @#$%& hate is when someone

> comes on here and slags of anybody who disagrees

> with them, in a sneery and childish way, and

> simultaneously tries to elevate their own

> subjective judgment into received wisdom.

Spot on - totally agree.

[MsJ]

DaveR Wrote:

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> I like the Palmerston. I've never had a bad meal

> there, always thought it was pretty good value,

> and always had adequate service, although I

> wouldn't say that's their strongest suit. I'm not

> keen on the Herne - I like their aspirations but

> imo they are not organised enough to deliver. I

> also like Franklins, although again I wouldn't say

> their service is great, and on occasions I've not

> found many menu dishes that really appealed -

> that's just my taste, I guess.

>

> However, what I really @#$%& hate is when someone

> comes on here and slags of anybody who disagrees

> with them, in a sneery and childish way, and

> simultaneously tries to elevate their own

> subjective judgment into received wisdom.

It really is pathetic isn't it.

[Siduhe]

DaveR Wrote:

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> I like the Palmerston. I've never had a bad meal

> there, always thought it was pretty good value,

> and always had adequate service, although I

> wouldn't say that's their strongest suit. I'm not

> keen on the Herne - I like their aspirations but

> imo they are not organised enough to deliver. I

> also like Franklins, although again I wouldn't say

> their service is great, and on occasions I've not

> found many menu dishes that really appealed -

> that's just my taste, I guess.

>

> However, what I really @#$%& hate is when someone

> comes on here and slags of anybody who disagrees

> with them, in a sneery and childish way, and

> simultaneously tries to elevate their own

> subjective judgment into received wisdom.

Thirded.

[Cassius]

I have eaten the set weekday lunch at the Palmeston and found it to be a bargain - can't afford to eat there a la carte. Sadly their excellent Chapel Down is no longer on the wine list due to lack of interest in English wines which is a real shame.

Have also eaten the set lunch at Arbutus - excellent food but extremely small portions - although I guess to be expected at such low prices (it was ?15 for 3 courses when I ate there). Love the way they do wine by the 1/3 of a bottle - gives one the opportunity of trying expensive and unusual wines.

For really good value food I would recommend braving it to Croydon and eating at Albert's Table - before it gets a Michelin star and the prices go sky high!

[Jeremy]

Yep, the 1/3 bottles are a good idea... particularly if you want to try different wine with different courses!

[Cassius]

Which we did - and had a wonderful German Red with our cheese - it's a shame that more places don't do that but I guess you would have to be supremely confident in both your wine list and your punters that wine wouldn't go to waste.

[Louisa]

God I really do hate what has become of some of our old boozers around here. Snobs arguing in a recession about how lovely and or b*llox some overpriced food is. I bet the owner drives a lovely car.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

Hooray! Guess who!

Can you put these into gastronomic order, Louisa? So we know you're know what you're talking about?

Harvester.

Palmerston.

Egg & Chips.

Chicken Cottage.

Devon.

[lenk]

Louisa Wrote:

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> God I really do hate what has become of some of

> our old boozers around here. Snobs arguing in a

> recession about how lovely and or b*llox some

> overpriced food is. I bet the owner drives a

> lovely car.

>

> Louisa.

Yeah, damn him and his successful business.

[TJ]

What is that supposed to mean!?

Are people who take on a dying venture and turn it into a successful restaurant, managing to avoid bankruptcy and failure (as well as the local luddites) in someway guilty of fat-cat behavior if they buy a car?

Do you know what? I bet he does drive a nice car, and I bet he deserves it.

[TJ]

Louisa / Louisiana...

Can we set up a special section of the site where the two of them can just nitpick at each other and not bother any of us again?

[Cassius]

I can't remember the Palmeston ever being a particuarly nice boozer when it was the Lord Palmeston. Whether or not it is overpriced it is a definite improvement on its previous incarnation (in my opinion)