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Forgive me for going off on a tangent PROSouthwark, but you may have noticed that states that style themselves "People's Republic of XXXX" don't have a great record of providing their citizenry with much in the way of health, wealth and happiness. Can I suggest that (from a marketing perspective) you may be better served by a different tag?


How about South London Democratic Maoist Utopian Collective (Bench Manufacturing Cadre)?

Assuming hypothetically that the evidence that the accepted story doesn't stand up to scrutiny, where is the evidence that points towards the hypothesis that it was the British government courting support for an unpopular war (although they were happy toembark on it without popular support so strange why they would try and drum up support two years later, having already won the election) rather than say, a anti-muslim smear campaign by those pesky Catholics?


Cripes, that's sentence and a half!!

Huegonot

It annoys me when these nasty little people, often with limited reasoning skills, would use the freedom others have won them to take it away from our society.

I suppose you think the Communities Sustainabilities Act was set up by our caring local, central goverment, people have fought for years with beaurocracy to make this happen, but of course most of the posters on here will believe that its only the good people of dulwich who deal with REAL problems (will it be a waitrose, budgen,).

Southwark council are being there usual anti social selves, not giving the people a voice even though it states in the act the community should a big part in it.

Pro, you will find on this site a group mentality, lots of them know each other, ( monthly social drink), they justify being rude, refuse to debate, then constantly accuse usually one or two people who have diffrent views, you are not welcome on this site if you talk about anything that remotely shakes there safe little world.

Possibly antijen, but the only point of yours that I take issue with is that you think it's fine to take the law into your own hands with the destruction of property if it's something that you don't happen to like (GM crops).


I can assure you, that regardless of whether I like your car, your home, or your committee meeting, I won't be breaking into it to burn it down.


I also believe in local democracy, rather than the tyranny of some self-appointed messiah(s).


If you don't like your councillors, stand for election.


If you don't get in, it means other people don't share your views, and you have no right to do anything.

Huegonot

It annoys me when these nasty little people, often with limited reasoning skills, would use the freedom others have won them to take it away from our society.

I suppose you think the Communities Sustainabilities Act was set up by our caring local, central ?? goverment, people have fought for years with beaurocracy to make this happen, but of course most of the posters on here will believe that its only the good people of dulwich who deal with REAL problems (will it be a waitrose, budgen,).

Southwark council are being there usual anti social selves, not giving the people a voice even though it states in the act the community should [missing word] a big part in it.

Pro, you will find on this site a group mentality, lots of them know each other, ( monthly social drink), they justify being rude, refuse to debate, then constantly accuse usually one or two people who have diffrent views, you are not welcome on this site if you talk about anything that remotely shakes there safe little world.



And we are pedantic about spelling and grammar. Actually, I think we are pretty representative of the local populace, with all shades of the political spectrum represented and respected when serious points are made. In common with many British people we also have a pretty low tolerance of loony extremism, although naturally we react by poking fun rather than anything more threatening. (I keep on saying we - I am not presuming to speak for anyone else, but I do base my views on my observations of the majority of forum participants)

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> but of course most of the posters on here will believe that its only the good people of dulwich who deal with REAL problems


Do you really think that?


> Pro, you will find on this site a group mentality, lots of them know each other, ( monthly social drink), they justify being rude, refuse to debate, then constantly accuse usually one or two people who have diffrent views, you are not welcome on this site if you talk about anything that remotely shakes there safe little world.


You are right about the drinks each month, but to be fair, they are open to everyone, if you chose not to go, that is absolutely up to you, but don't paint it as some exclusive club.


As for "refuse to debate", what is that about? Surely debate is exactly what Huguenot, and Marmora Man, (and to some extent me) have been trying to do on this very thread. Disagreeing with you is not refusing to debate.


I often have issues with the forum, and some of the users, but reading a post like yours makes me want to defend it tooth and nail. You talk about "their safe little world", is this because you think you're much more edgy or something, and you know what it's really like out there on the bad streets of SE London? Or is it just that, that is what you'd like to believe?

Thanks antijen for showing some intelligence. I'm tough as old boots so no harm done here. I also know that for every one person here who shouts down truth, there are thousands forced onto substandard south london estates with no access to the internet and barely able to feed their families. No wonder they resort to weapons to be heard.


But yessir we have to find out about that waitros!

DaveR, And i believe the goverment are looney extremists, thank you for pointing out my grammer mistakes, I take your serious point, I must remember what is important to the regular bunch on this forum.

Huegonot, Do you suppose the sustainability act has been got by people burning down town halls? I think you have a problem in grouping everyone who is fighting a belief you disagree with, as nasty little people. As for local democracy isnt that what pro is saying, Southwark council are refusing to allow that to happen, even though it is stated local people should be part of the committee.

I am old and easily confused, so apologies if I do not understand.


But are you saying the Councillors, which are elected by the people to represent the people, are refusing to allow the people to have their voice heard? It sounds to this old fool that your group may wish to influence policy of a narrow few without facing the wider electorate, who would not vote for you.


But I'm old and feeble. What does one know?

Oh Bob I do feel terribly bad now having posted that link. We should not find this humorous.


More importantly, one feels he must apologise again on behalf of Camberwell, which apparently endorses this group via our feeble local websites. Apparently. I stopped logging on locally a long time back.

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