Fender or Gibson?

[Brendan]

Give me any guitar and I'll make it sound rubbish.

[The Chair]

Time to banish this to the Lounge.

Note to Brendan: The topic was not reasons why teenage boys shut themselves in their bedrooms.

[Ted Max]

Steeee-rrrrike one for Brendan.

Come and play with the thickos, Brendan. We've been smearing mud on each other's faces all morning while the smart kids have been away at the inter-school debating comp. Mr Maclaren's going to let us have a go with the boxing gloves after lunch.

[Brendan]

That's not mud.

[Brendan]

The Chair Wrote:

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> Note to Brendan: The topic was not reasons why

> teenage boys shut themselves in their bedrooms.

Excuse me? Do I address you as Mister or Madam Chairman? I?m going to go with Madam for now unless informed to the contrary.

Excuse me Madam Chairman but the topic regarding the virtues of the two most well know brands of electric guitar has everything to do with why teenage boys shut themselves in their bedrooms.

Music, creative outlet, girls, sex and the pursuit of sex, personal identity, playing with things.

I feel that my contributions were perhaps misinterpreted.

[Narnia]

Does this mean that any Drawing Room topic can be excluded from there by sabotage? Not that I'm saying you did this Brendan but 'The Chair' obviously considered your input as off topic. Surely the offending message should be zapped rather than moving us all into The Lounge.

[????]

This feels loungy to me as would say "Beatles or the Stones" or, god forbid, "Man U or Liverpool"

[Kells]

Now you're all back to keep the thick people in the lounge (well, me) company, I'd agree with Keef - Slash uses a Les Paul. Discussed.

But I think the SG looks better.

Brendan - the rosewood neck has ruined the strat for me, I'm afraid.

[Annasfield]

Keef - will you teach me how to play the guitar? Something i've always wanted to learn.

[Keef]

True, rose wood is far too cool for a strat, just as this is far too cool for the Drawing Room.

[HonaloochieB]

Brendan Wrote:

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> The Chair Wrote:

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>

> > Note to Brendan: The topic was not reasons why

> > teenage boys shut themselves in their bedrooms.

>

> Excuse me? Do I address you as Mister or Madam

> Chairman? I?m going to go with Madam for now

> unless informed to the contrary.

>

> Excuse me Madam Chairman but the topic regarding

> the virtues of the two most well know brands of

> electric guitar has everything to do with why

> teenage boys shut themselves in their bedrooms.

>

> Music, creative outlet, girls, sex and the pursuit

> of sex, personal identity, playing with things.

>

> I feel that my contributions were perhaps

> misinterpreted.

The straights were always gonna come down heavy on freaks, Brendan. Don't sweat it man.

The establishment hates unfettered self-expression. Stay away from it, brother.

The establishment I mean, not the unfettered self-expression.

Remember the words of Karl Marx "I wouldn't want to be in a club that remembered me".

And the inscription on Buddy Guthrie's guitar "This machine head kills spastics".

Mind maybe old Buddy wasn't being too cool there.

Any how, remember the word pass? Don't Bogart that thing.

[mlteenie]

Ho-hum. Fender.

Any guitarist who has striven for years to make their own sound realises eventually that no matter what they play, it still sounds like them. e.g. SRV played Strats and Gibbos and sounded like SRV. As did Jimi. As does Keef (Richard). As does Townshend, etc, etc.

The sound is in the fingers, not the amp or guitar.

[Jeremy]

Les Paul played through a JCM800... Strat played through a fender twin... they sound pretty bloody different to me.

[indiepanda]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Oh blah, blah, blah. The important thing is

> whether or not it?s going to make women want to

> sleep with you.

If you think most women would notice which guitar you are playing think you'd be mistaken. Am sure when it comes to pulling, it comes more down to the style and confidence with which someone plays than what guitar they play.

[mlteenie]

Jeremy, what i am referring to is players who develop an identity on the guitar. The identity comes through regardless of gear combination. Layering up different setups for working rhythm tracks or something would sound different admittedly, but for an activity level above that the player would shine through.

Fenders are harder to play, but due to the nature of the single coils I find them springier and more dynamic than humbuckers. Those who like them are prepared to put up with the hassle of effort and intonation to achieve the tone. I have both and use them for different jobs. I think most of the interpretation of the sound is by the player rather than the listener.

I think I started with Fender because of the shape which is obviously FAR sexier and modern than a LP.

[Brendan]

indiepanda Wrote:

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> If you think most women would notice which guitar

> you are playing think you'd be mistaken.

hmmm, so it wasn't all the fault of my crappy guitars then.

[Keef]

I agree that a player's style will shine through, but surely they will find the gear that suits that style best. Hendrix may have used every guitar under the sun, but basicaly he was a strat man. Tony Iommi is an SG man, and Slash is a Les Paul man, yes they could play anything else, and keep their style, but their sound would be that bit different.

I think I started with Fender because of the shape which is obviously FAR sexier and modern than a LP.

I prefer my classic good looks ;-)

[Keef]

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> Keef - will you teach me how to play the guitar?

> Something i've always wanted to learn.

I can do, but I am self taught, so probably don't do everything by the book, and may teach you bad habits.

[Asset]

I prefer the look of a Fender strat. Not keen on teles strangely.

[mlteenie]

Keef - fair play.

I was referring to a Strat in the sexiness stakes.

Adding to the 'unexpected' factor, the solo on 'Another Brick On The Wall' was a Les Paul, despite sounding like a Strat. And the lead on 'House Burning Down' was a Les Paul too, despite being Jimi. But what about 'Cause We Ended As Lovers'? Jeff Beck played a Tele with humbuckers on that. Don't think Fenders are right with 'buckers.

I basically like to play Fenders because they look nice, you can drop them and they still work and you can take them to bits. Plus my greatest heroes played them (mostly).

[Keef]

Nail on the head there, we are all were influenced by our guitar heroes, which will have influenced our choices I guess. If I'm honest, it's probably why I started drinking JD and smoking Marlboro.

[The Chair]

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[Keef]

Oi Chair, you've banished us from the grown up room, don't now follow us in to the nursery to rub it in.

[Ian Kelly]

Les Paul

[Keef]

Good point, well made Ian.