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[Ladymuck]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Santerme Wrote:

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> > Did you go to the now sadly missing Tulse Hill

> > School?

>

Jah Lush wrote:

> I went there and there's nothing sad to miss about

> it.

He he - yes, my hubby would agree with you (he went there too - left in 74)...he turned out alright though!

[Ladymuck]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Horses for courses. I was there between '69 and

> '74. It was a culture shock for me too after being

> brought up in leafy Dulwich Village. Got mugged on

> my first day. There were nearly 2,000 kids there

> when I was there, skinheads and rude boys and

> nearly all of us wanted to kill each other. It

> taught me to be street wise. I walked out in the

> end and told them to stick it up their arse. Never

> went back. It wasn't all bad though.

Blimey, you were there at the same time as my hubby!

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or Santerme if they were given the opportunity to learn by the other pupils.

Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or was being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool" Guys?

Same q. to bbw @ Forest Hill Boys.

[daizie]

Interesting question Tony :))

[HonaloochieB]

Just clear something up for me please P.

The bass on Magnificent Seven, it wasn't you was it?

No offence like.

[bigbadwolf]

Tony

I was at Forest Hill Boys from 1995-2000.

In answer to your question, yes, we did encourage each other to learn. This attitude was enforced by our Irish headmaster who took an enormous interest in our academic well being as well as any personal issues we may have. His door was always open.

My first two years were mired by the incompetence of our then headmaster Graham Agnew who didn't really take much interest in us and was more interested in writing about his charity expeditions although in fairness I and many others thought he was a good man none the less.

When Mr Walsh took charge rigid and fierce discipline took hold. Trouble makers were often man handled from the class. Rudeness to a female member of staff whether she be a teacher or dinner lady meant weekend detention (cleaning the playground on a saturday morning). This was because being a boys school any desent towards a female staff's authority had to be nipped in the bud.

A slap upside the head wasn't uncommon and if you were caught fouling on the sports field the games teacher would land a studded boot on your foot or leg.

The parents would tolerate mild physical chastisement because they knew what a rowdy bunch we could be. However, a serious breach of trust would be reported to the Police and School board. This only happened once when I was there.

I enjoyed my time there although the school I went to has since been re-developed to the extent that I no longer recognize it any more.

Jah Lush wrote;

"Was Mr George an English teacher? If so, I remember him. He was great. I made a point of going to his lessons because he made things interesting. I'd start to write poetry/lyrics and he would greatly encourage me. Lovely man."

The same applies to me Jah. My English teacher Mr Bevan got me onto the school magazine/circular and would allow me to write my articles under a pseudonym, which on occasion would get him into grief after I'd mercilessly rip into the fashion sense of the P.E staff.

[Santerme]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or Santerme

> if they were given the opportunity to learn by the

> other pupils.

>

> Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or was

> being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool"

> Guys?

>

> Same q. to bbw @ Forest Hill Boys.

Lessons were 'interesting' and ranged from complete mayhem through moderate mayhem to something creeping up on normality.

Which was a total 180 degree aboutface from my previous experience.

But being away at boarding school, if you cope, makes you quite psychologically tough and adaptable

For the most part I was untroubled by the chaos around me.

I developed a quick wit, which came to my aid several times in moments of possible confrontation.

I played Rugby and participated in Athletics for the school, so I was not a typical geek.

It was, to my mind now, a thoroughly good experience.

I was lucky to have a teacher who recognised I had potential and pushed me to do well, there were many more like me, equally capable, who slipped through the net or just found conforming to the unruly behaviour more meaningful at the time.

If truth be known I could easily have taken that path, I just knew I was better than that, mainly because my grandparents (my parents were deployed overseas)and one teacher in particular told me I was.

[????]

BBW's headmaster

[bigbadwolf]

Quid's headmaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKTxgQp8S0

[Mick Mac]

Educating Rita

Now that I am the age now, which Julie Walters was then, she looks quite nice.

[Ladymuck]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or Santerme

> if they were given the opportunity to learn by the

> other pupils.

>

> Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or was

> being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool"

> Guys?

>

> Same q. to bbw @ Forest Hill Boys.

I shall enquire from "Mr. Ladymuck" (funny! TLS) and report back!

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Thanks for your replies bbw/santerme/Ladymuck.

Reply in more detail tomorrow.

[RosieH]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Educating Rita

> Now that I am the age now, which Julie Walters was

> then, she looks quite nice.

Educating Rita. Now that I am the age I am now, Michael Caine looks quite nice.

[Mick Mac]

People thought my father looked like Michael Caine, Rosie - not that I'm suggesting anything.

Did you Mum look like Julie Walters?

[bigbadwolf]

An Irish Michael Caine?

"Yarornly saporsed ta blor da blordy dahs aff, ya fockin eejit!!"

Or something along those lines.

[Mick Mac]

I'll have to post that clip of you Morris Dancing again Lawrence.

[bigbadwolf]

Don't do that.

[bigbadwolf]

My names Seamus by the way

[????]

latest footage of BBW...

[bigbadwolf]

Quid's 50th birthday present.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExj4zXMGUQ

[Ladymuck]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or Santerme

> if they were given the opportunity to learn by the

> other pupils.

>

> Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or was

> being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool"

> Guys?

>

> Same q. to bbw @ Forest Hill Boys.

TLS, "Mr. Ladymuck" says:

> Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or Santerme

> if they were given the opportunity to learn by the

> other pupils.

"No - we were not given the opportunity to learn by other pupils as, in my class, pupils were disruptive in the main."

> Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or was

> being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool"

> Guys?

"Yes - classes were frequently disrupted. Never being a boffin myself, I was never frowned upon. The classes were "streamed" - i.e. boffins in one class and potential disruptives in another. I was placed in the latter, so wouldn't really know...you would have to ask someone from the "boffins" class!

I would say though, once leaving school (with few qualifications) I realised that something was very wrong - so I went to College and eventually Uni. to do a science degree (whilst working).

Keith Graham (Mr. Reggae Reggae sauce) did alright though...BBQ sauce on supermarket shelves, his own cookery show and cookery books...and he wasn't in the boffin stream".

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> > Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or

> Santerme

> > if they were given the opportunity to learn by

> the

> > other pupils.

> >

> > Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or

> was

> > being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool"

> > Guys?

> >

> > Same q. to bbw @ Forest Hill Boys.

>

>

> TLS, "Mr. Ladymuck" says:

>

> > Interesting to ask Mr. Ladymuckor Jah or

> Santerme

> > if they were given the opportunity to learn by

> the

> > other pupils.

>

>

> "No - we were not given the opportunity to learn

> by other pupils as, in my class, pupils were

> disruptive in the main."

>

> > Did they, frequently, disrupt lessons and/or

> was

> > being a "boffin" frowned upon and not "cool"

> > Guys?

>

>

> "Yes - classes were frequently disrupted. Never

> being a boffin myself, I was never frowned upon.

> The classes were "streamed" - i.e. boffins in one

> class and potential disruptives in another. I was

> placed in the latter, so wouldn't really

> know...you would have to ask someone from the

> "boffins" class!

>

> I would say though, once leaving school (with few

> qualifications) I realised that something was very

> wrong - so I went to College and eventually Uni.

> to do a science degree (whilst working).

>

> Keith Graham (Mr. Reggae Reggae sauce) did alright

> though...BBQ sauce on supermarket shelves, his own

> cookery show and cookery books...and he wasn't in

> the boffin stream".

Thanks for the interesting reply Ladymuck.