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I'm getting more pissed off with selfish, dangerous car drivers as I get older. They cause death and injury in the thousands every year but are left to carry on making our cities dangerous to live in. People get up in arms over the deaths caused by drugs, guns, knives etc but because the weapon of choice of the majority of killers is something so many people have become dependent on, ie a car, nothing is done to restrict their freedom to maim and kill. Makes me sick.

Fliss Wrote:

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> SeanMacgavhann is often the voice of reason on

> this forum, it seems to me. Following on from

> what Sean said about no driver parents having

> posted - as a parent newly dropping off and

> picking up (by bus or on foot, depending on the

> weather and what time it is) from the school in

> question (I don't know the school that well yet,

> or the other parents) thay all seem to arrive on

> foot, or else I see one or two I recognise on the

> bus..... I haven't seen many cars outside the

> school.



It isn't very noticable coming to the school from Barry Road end - the parents park on Friern/congestion is at the Friern/Etherow junction.

When I had a son at primary school I never dropped him off by car.

But my guess is that some of the people dropping off by car are doing so because they are going on to work.

And madly juggling lots of things and too busy to read this thread and respond.

I cycle to Hammersmith every day to work and am totally pissed off with the number of dangerous drivers on the roads who think that it's more important that they get to their job 5 minutes early at the risk of a cyclist like me not making it at all.


I don't care if you have to juggle kids and work, so do we all, but I don't endanger peoples lives whilst doing it.

Quids. You seem to picking a fight with the childless when it is as many parents I see on here saying much the same


I know people from the top of friern rd who drop the kids off there. On any case I'm not telling anyone how far they can and can't drive. But the thread is about the problem of people blocking that rd up whic delays other people (some with kids some not) from getting to work on time. They can't park around the corner no??

No I am not Sean, that's ridiculous 85% of my life to date has been childless but as someone memorably said on here - I do wish i was half the parent that i was was when i didn't have kids. I'm responding to a specific post that tickled me and sticking up for Fuschia. Inspite of what you might think i'm not in favour of anti-social behavviour on the road by anyone and kids are no excuse.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to start a fight just read your post as lacking context when I first read it


I've moved away from that road anyway but it still bugs me. Still, sun is shining

Bellerophon: There is no targeting of Catholics in my posts. I have as much comtepmt for Sikhism, Islam, Judaism or any other religion that rejects logical and scientific reason in favour of blind faith in outdated fairy stories. Please do not feel victimmised. You are ALL numbskulls.


Elly74: you said in your post that you walk your kids to school. What therefore is your beef with me? I praise your attitude, if all parents walked with their kids to school as you do, then the world would be a better place.


Keef: If the truth offends you then I am an offensive person.

Less pollution

Less congestion

Thinner kids

More feeling of community as people walked to school together

Less irate local residents

Lower carbon emissions


I'm sure there are other social benefits too that I cant think of.

Silverfox - you aren't one for spotting the blindingly obvious are you...

eater81 Wrote:

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> So believing in talking snakes, angels, miracles,

> that the world was created in 6 days flat, that

> the theory of evolution is invalid etc etc is the

> mark of an intelligent human being?



Blessed are the Cheesemakers

Quick reply about the "why are children coming for some distance to ED schools when they are all oversubscribed" comment. Children are at primary school for 7 years, and a school that is not very popular, may take children from areas with even worse schools, only to find a few years later, that it is oversubscribed but that the siblings of children who came years ago have a right to a place. Ivydale has had its ups & downs - the children who got places there in say, 2002 (when my second son started), even though they lived north of Queens Road, have moved on, but their younger siblings are still attending. I seem to remember that one government or other made a big thing about parental choice...

OK, so the "siblings policy" is the reason for the congestion. So, a parent has a child in ED and moves out, or is forced into sending their kids to a school many miles away at some point because there is no availablity in their local shcool, has more children and for years to come will be driving to or catching the bus to ED? This saves them the obvious inconvenience of having to travel to multiple schools while the children's schooling intersects, but potentially pushes another eldest / only child into a situation in which they are unable to find a place in a school withing walking distance and then have to be driven to a school further away. I guess whether this is right or not is almost impossible to establish. Does the benefit to the parents of siblings exceed the disruption caused to others? As stated, I suspect that this is utterly unanswerable.


But, in response east-of-rye, I think that we are all agreed that irrespective of government rhetoric, choice is illusory, or at least the domain of the local authority rather than the individual.


I guess that it is time to head to Tunbridge Wells. Perhaps eater81 can give me a lift.

Eater81 why don't you start a thread about religion in the lounge?


Funny thing is I agree with your post about talking snakes etc. but this is a thread about parking! Talking about civil liberties and allocation of school places may be relevant but debating whether or not God exists belongs somewhere else methinks.


Especially as school-run parents creating problems seems to affect schools of all kinds - irrespective of parents' beliefs and income bracket.

Fraud.

This could very well be the issue.


& on that subject, I didn't get into The Charter School 5 years ago, when I only lived down the road. My best friend did & she lived is Camberwell. She had given a relatives address & my mum had to make an appeal...


One can easily fake an address & because of this, I know some kids are not getting into the schools closer to them.


As for the idiot parents who do live in the area & drive to school, this makes me very angry because I can name a long list of people who do this.


Schools should make a point of this...



dancet Wrote:

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> "Or, is the allocation of school places in East

> Dulwich subject to significant fraud?

>

> If the latter is the case, and I have no evidence

> of it, can the council not do something to ensure

> that places are allocated to people who live in

> the area? "

>

> Fraud? don't get me started!!! They come from

> miles away using fake addresses (look at earlier

> threads on cheats). One mum drives an hour every

> day to get to the Charter (he uses a Dulwich

> address). That is one reason why so many of them

> are in cars.

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