Donald Trump

[JoeLeg]

Grok Wrote:

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> Youre the only one mentioning colour here. If you

> can read you will see im saying there are no go

> zones and it includes east london as elsewhere and

> police do not routinely go there as therevwould be

> a riotvevery night of thevweek. That imo is a no

> go zone. Under cover of the no go zones, as you

> gather nefarious activities carry on unabated

> previsely because the police do not go there on a

> regular patrol basis.and it includes all

> criminality such as those that would engage in

> extremist activities.

>

There is a world of difference between the fact (which I agree with btw, but that isn't the discussion bring had here) that some bits of London are high crime areas within which the police use more 'intense' tactics when they go in, and the theory that this has translated into Islamic-dominated 'no-go' zones which are breeding grounds for extremists.

The radicalisation is happening, but not like that. It's a more insidious process (again that's a different discussion), but it has not translated into territorial dominance of East London by extremists. And by implying it has (which you seem to be doing) you are indeed talking about British (ie mainly white) people vs Islamic (mainly Arabic/African) people. So skin colour does become a factor. Though I'll concede it's a minor one, as there are several examples of radicalised white British Muslim converts who go to Syria and do a modern day Lord Haw Haw.

Anyway - localised crime/extremist Jihadis, not the same thing, I guess is my point.

[numbers]

Seabag Wrote:

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> I don't know why but Croks posts always read in a

> Scandinavian accent in my head

>

> Scandinavian and nonsense on this one

There are lots of Scandinavians in East Dulwich these days don'cha know.

[mikeb]

I run all around London (for fun) and I can confirm I have never come across a no-go area anywhere in south or east London. Yes, I am a bit more careful at night but still no issue with anywhere including Angell Town, Burgess Park, north Peckham, Tower Hamlets, Carey Gardens, Winstanley Estate, Tulse Hill.

Grok - name one street or estate that I should test out and I will report back how it goes, both at daytime and night. If you like, then please name 5 areas and I'll rank them for you.

[Jah Lush]

Grok Wrote:

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> Prove it wrong then? You cant. Try getting out the

> pub and actually see whats going on.

You prove it. Give us some facts instead of spouting rubbish. You can't can you. Just like you seem to think I'm in the pub all the time. I'm not.

[Otta]

North Peckham Estate (A.K.A. "Frontline" was a bit if a no go once upon a time. Nothing to do with Islamic extremists though.

[Louisa]

More to do with the way in which it was built I would argue, dark connecting corridors with little or no lighting. Very poor post war building resulted in places for crime to easily flourish.

Louisa.

[mikeb]

Sumner Road and Friary Road and surrounding estates - no problems. In fact, Friary Rd is now a little chic.

I'm looking for a challenge - I'm not very fast so if I come across somewhere genuinely dangerous then I will need to get a personal best to escape.

[miga]

I think we can all agree, at this festive time, that with sufficient armed and logistical support, as well as appropriate safety equipment, nowhere in London need be a "no go" area. It's "all go".

[Seabag]

I do find parking n Dulwich Village difficult on a Sunday

Is that because of Jihadists ?

[Earl Aelfheah]

gang activity

[Jeremy]

Jesus Grok, you do say some weird stuff. Walthamstow a no-go area?

[Otta]

Trump and Katie Hopkins are on the same page. Tells you all you need to know.

[????]

Sadly, there's also an online pettion supporting closing our borders a la Trump that apparently has more support than the Trump one but is not getting the 'press'

All this online petition and the simplistic, thick, virtual signalling crap of the politics of Social Media is actually restoring my faith in Representative Democracy rather than Direct Democracy. The loudest people on social media seem the most angry, dimwitted Fookwits in the world.

[adonirum]

Otta Wrote:

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> Trump and Katie Hopkins are on the same page.

> Tells you all you need to know.

Apparently, he's now quoted as praising her, Otta.

[LondonMix]

I couldn't agree with you more.

The petitions I get via Change.org are terrible.

???? Wrote:

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> Sadly, there's also an online pettion supporting

> closing our borders a la Trump that apparently has

> more support than the Trump one but is not getting

> the 'press'

>

> All this online petition and the simplistic,

> thick, virtual signalling crap of the politics of

> Social Media is actually restoring my faith in

> Representative Democracy rather than Direct

> Democracy. The loudest people on social media seem

> the most angry, dimwitted Fookwits in the world.

[Louisa]

Just seen on the BBC News that 2/3 of Republican primary voters polled, claimed to support trump's idea of a ban on Muslims visiting the States. If true, that's quite scary.

Louisa.

[Otta]

I agree with Quids about online petitions. It was a nice idea, but too many muppets starting stupid ones.

[Louisa]

I wonder if I could start a petition for my lounge release?

Louisa.

[Otta]

???? Wrote:

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> Sadly, there's also an online pettion supporting

> closing our borders a la Trump that apparently has

> more support than the Trump one but is not getting

> the 'press'

>

>

One with 444,241 signatures, but that was started in September.

[Otta]

To be fair there are plenty of articles about it. The silly tart that started it has lived in Spain since 1989, I shit you not.

[Parkdrive]

adonirum Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Trump and Katie Hopkins are on the same page.

> > Tells you all you need to know.

>

> Apparently, he's now quoted as praising her, Otta.

Two coonts together, they deserve each other , toxic twats

[adonirum]

PD, hope you mean Trump and Hopkins and not me and Otta !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Louisa]

Hopkins is a shock jock, pure and simple. The more you hate her, you more she digs her heels in and carries on with what she does. I actually really like her style, I think we could learn a lot from her. I don't agree with her on Trump, but guess what she has the right to say and do what she pleases in a democracy. I'd quite like to see her up against Lady Colin Campbell, now that would be highly entertaining.

Louisa.

[Jah Lush]

Louisa Wrote:

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> I'd quite like to see her up against Lady Colin Campbell, now that would be highly entertaining.

>

> Louisa.

I'd quite like to her up against a wall and shot without a blindfold. I'd find that highly entertaining. Can you just imagine the TV ratings?

Also, Colin is a bit of an odd name for a lady don't you think? I blame the parents.

[Loz]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Also, Colin is a bit of an odd name for a lady don't you think? I blame the parents.

She changed it. It used to be George.