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Ms B Wrote:



> Not sure any of these posts could be called

> satire, by the way...

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See my lazy cut & paste description


"A text or performance that uses irony, derision, or wit to expose or attack human vice, foolishness, or stupidity. Adjective: satiric or satirical."



Still offensive maybe but satire none the less



Anyway I shall withdraw, I have no wish to get anyones "blood up" on a grey Monday though, Tuesday looks much more promising






W**F

My point exactly. If you're attacking folly or vice, you're making a moral judgment - by definition, not just having a laugh.


Like a lot of people, I went through a phase of being fat and less than confident many years ago and, although it was long before public fat-baiting was legitimised as it has been over the last decade, I haven't forgotten how aggressive and critical other people could be. I know it's annoying if you're on the bus and feeling squashed but there's a person with a mind and soul in there.

Ms B! good to see you back.


I do think the majority of posters are agreeing with you, though.


Anyway.


pk, surely asking a small child to sit on a lap is no hardship? I rather agree that I don't see the relevance of whether she had paid or not (she's a child, she doesn't have to) nor of who was more tired than whom (small children generally win this one hands down), but overall it's just good manners to budge up for others where it's possible.


The comment on tiredness reminds me of a comment made by a certain ex-poster who said he never stood up for old people on the bus because he'd been at work all day and they hadn't. Nice.

Moos Wrote:

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> Ms B! good to see you back.

>

> I do think the majority of posters are agreeing

> with you, though.

>

> Anyway.

>

> pk, surely asking a small child to sit on a lap is

> no hardship? I rather agree that I don't see the

> relevance of whether she had paid or not (she's a

> child, she doesn't have to) nor of who was more

> tired than whom (small children generally win this

> one hands down), but overall it's just good

> manners to budge up for others where it's

> possible.

>

> The comment on tiredness reminds me of a comment

> made by a certain ex-poster who said he never

> stood up for old people on the bus because he'd

> been at work all day and they hadn't. Nice.


you're probably right - but it was the 'i've paid my money and they haven't' (to paraphrase) etc that i didn't get. in practice i guess it depends on the size of the child


personally, i've never thought of asking someone to move a child to make way for me and in my view a child's as much right to sit there as me so even now it's occurred to me that some people do i don't think that i will - may be i need to work on my sense of self importance

Well it's a matter of good manners isn't it PK. You don't sit whilst an old person or a disabled person is standing and you don't put a small child on a seat in a crowded bus when the child could easily sit on your lap. If you got on the bus carrying a tired toddler then I hope someone would stand an offer you a seat. It's just basic good manners.

Too right Moos, Roger Moore should be paying a bit extra when he uses the bus.

Mind he's getting on a bit, what are we saying about old people and public transport?

Should Roger and for example Sean Connery only travel outside of rush hours?

How can anyone say that being black, gay or whatever are the same as being fat. Being fat is not an immutable characteristic. You can choose not to be fat. Most people are fat because they eat (and drink) too much and exercise too little. Lard arses of the world, unite and start walking instead of squashing everyone else on the bus!

LegalEagle-ish Wrote:

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> How can anyone say that being black, gay or

> whatever are the same as being fat. Being fat is

> not an immutable characteristic. You can choose

> not to be fat. Most people are fat because they

> eat (and drink) too much and exercise too little.

> Lard arses of the world, unite and start walking

> instead of squashing everyone else on the bus!


Legal, did you ever eat (and drink) too much and exercise too little ?

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