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These events are rarely about local talent. They're not community festivals, but large corporate events, fenced off and ticketed. I don't know why anyone would want to see the Rye privatised for several days. It's not like Clapham is difficult to get to.

A local festival in the Rye, even though it will probably have enclosed concession spaces, will almost certainly benefit local hostelries, restaurants etc. with the influx of people - indeed they may take such concessions. It is generally beneficial for the locale to be seen as a destination venue, if only for a weekend, and it would continue the trend to undo some of the bad reputation that Peckham still has in minds north of the river (and elsewhere).


There always seems to be an undercurrent of trepidation and fear of the new and different on the forum - enjoy and welcome change - a society happily set in aspic is a society with a death wish which has every chance of being fulfilled.


See the festival as an opportunity, not a threat, as a potential for joy, not dismay and despair.


NB - I have no links with the organisers or indeed any aspect whatsoever of such a festival, in case of doubts.

What is to be gained by advertising (for example, to North Londoners) that Peckham actually isn't that bad? How does the area directly benefit from that?


Well, sometimes it is nice to hear envy, not pity, when you tell someone where you live. Maybe if we get a better reputation someone might think we are worthy of proper public transport, rather than being an unruly rabble best kept away from decent folk (the best way of doing that is to make sure transport links are vile, broken and frequently suspended).

Yes, let's see the park fenced off for three days, so kids from Guildford can pay ?80 to be sold rubbish, whilst listening to Adele and discussing how "Peckham's not that bad, and only 20 minutes from Clapham junction". I have no interest in this at all. How about supporting local live music venues and bands rather than having some corporate events company take over our park in order to 'tap into the experience economy'? Bah!

This won't happen. The Tinkerman won't allow it. The Tinkerman will not allow the poor poor children of ED Champion Hill/Park to be kept awake and deprived of their mandatory 12 hours sleep per night from 0 - 17yrs of age.

I have also heard the Tinkerman has started proceedings to ban fireworks from Nov 5th - NYE for the exact same reasons above.


Harry73 Wrote:

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> Hi guys, has anyone else heard that a Clapham type

> weekend festival is coming to the Rye in 2017.

> Cannot wait, hopefully it's right. Not heard about

> acts but a friend works for LiveNation and says

> the promotion is in place.

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Yes, let's see the park fenced off for three days,

> so kids from Guildford can pay ?80 to be sold

> rubbish, whilst listening to Adele and discussing

> how "Peckham's not that bad, and only 20 minutes

> from Clapham junction". I have no interest in this

> at all. How about supporting local live music

> venues and bands rather than having some corporate

> events company take over our park in order to 'tap

> into the experience economy'? Bah!


Yes - nothing against festivals - but if it was fenced off

for a while then the local community has to benefit.


They fence off quite a large bit at Clapham (Clapham Common

is big though).

Brockwell Park has an annual event - the Country Show which also has a stage and bands - perhaps something free for everyone would be better.


The idea of having to buy a ticket to enjoy an event on your local park is becoming too normal that it is acceptable.


I disagree - while it does allow crowd control, this is not what it's all about at all - it's about making money.


It shouldn't be - it should be about the community and covering costs at the most.

Rye Common strikes me as far too small to hold a major festival like On Blackheath (which I attended as was good fun if perhaps a bit older and more middle class than the typical festival) and is likely to be much smaller if the rumor is even true. I love live music so I'd be happy to have an event here just because it would mean more live events in London. It would generate more trade for local business particularly the new stretch where Rosie's is so I'm sure it would be welcomed by local business. Also, getting home from a music festival is a nightmare-- the sheer numbers mean public transport is overwhelmed. It would be amazing to be able to walk back to ED in 10 minutes!
There are far too many 'festivals' in London as it is, another is not needed. Dulwich Pk fest, plus fairs, goose green, brockwell pk, irish fest on rye, blackheath, victoria pk, belair, clapham, burgess pk, crystal palace. The list is endless. London is overloaded with festivals in parks, they need to be reduced and limited. Parks are for nature, relaxing, dog walking, a spot of sport etc not weekend after weekend of hours of loud amplified music ruining residents weekends, distressing wildlife, creating mountains of litter and disrupting traffic. The beards are happy to jump on the ginger line to east london to be seen at these events. Leave the rye alone.

Most of these London festivals sell out, and sell out early. This suggests that the market feels London can handle more festivals. So long as ticketing is controlled and we don't get problems with "secondary sellers" snapping them all up, I'm all for this happening.

Zippos takes over the Rye for a good amount of time each year - this sort of festival targets a different audience and, I think, would be great for those who live locally and are in that audience.

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