Jump to content

Recommended Posts

I know that it is planned at Honour oak to connect the East london line in 2011-ish and that East dulwich was to follow suit about a year after,but I as talking to an estate agent in Foxtons and was told the idea had been scrapped !


I hope this is not the case does anyone have any ideas of what is in place.

Link to comment
https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/9438-east-dulwich-underground-station/
Share on other sites

As far as i'm aware its never been going to East Dulwich? I thought its extending straight down to West Croyden via Forest Hill and Honor Oak for 2010/2011 and then a year later adding another extension from Surrey Quays to Clapham via Queens Rd Peckham and Peckham Rye?
My understanding is that the original plan was to connect to Wimbledon via East Dulwich (and N Dulwich Tulse Hill etc etc.)But was ditched for cost reasons. My master plan is to carry on the Bakerloo line from E & C to Camberwell (as proposed many years ago) at the very least.

I am quite happy with the Overground being close enough to be convenient but not so close as to change the character of ED.


People who live here have to be able to navigate by bus and train timetable, requiring mental dexterity and high moral character.

???? Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Why do people want the tube so badly? Ok it's a

> bit more convenient but it would completley alter

> the character of SE22 for the worst - more

> transient, less community, more expensive and more

> bleedin' colonials from Clapham....Tube is vastly

> overated.


Possibly.


The train is fine most of the time, but a pain in the arse in the evenings. One train every 30 minutes is a bit shit.

If I had my way (and 5 billion pounds) the Bakerloo line would be extended along the route of the 176 to East Dulwich and Forest Hill, then above ground at Bell Green from where it could continue to Hayes or Bromley. This would provide the best solution to reducing overcrowding at London Bridge and Lewisham and provide connections from four separate national rail line and two arms of the East London Line. It would provide real underground connections for South East London across all zones. It utilises the only underground line with spare capacity as it reaches central London and the tunnel that already exists as far as Camberwell.

Tube at ED? Ha ha! Hilarious. I do hope this is a spoof.


What we will get is the Overground running from Shoreditch/Wapping/Rotherhithe south through Brockley, HOP, F Hill and then splitting to C P or W Croydon. That's this summer.


Then in 2012, as above, phase 2 - which is the Peckham Rye/D Hill bit.


Remains to be seen what it's like in practice, but I find it hard to imagine it will make things worse overall, although there'll be fewer trains to L Bridge.


As for extending the Victoria or Bakerloo, both have long been dreamed about but always defeated by unwillingness to tackle the south London clay to get through mainly not very rich or densely populated areas. The Northern line extension to Wimbledon in the thirties was dogged with difficulties with the clay. Bakerloo extension from Elephant to Camberwell actually started after the war, but ground to a halt - never to be resumed. P


Personally I mourn the Victoria-Moorgate loop which called at Honor Oak (as opposed to Honor Oak Park) and Lordship Lane as well as C P. Sadly that closed in, er, 1954.

http://www.abandonedstations.org.uk/Crystal_Palace_line_2.html

Considering the amount of people who wanted to sue Thames Water for installing water pipes to solve some of the ED aqua-delivery issues, it comes as no surprise that the powers that be would steer clear of digging an underground line.


Even if the clay issue was resolved ED would still have the nimbys.


It's a very conservative working class enclave.

I've attached an article on how the Spanish extend tubes lines in Madrid - cut and cover ?35M/km deep tunnelling ?55M/km including station, signalling, etc.

They can build from conception to trains running within 4 years - whole tube lines 20km long. TfL talks about 20 year planning. They nearly did a five year project extending the Docklands Light Railway into Woolwich Arsenal 2.5km ?180M. Wierdly the same distance to extend the Bakerloo line to Denmark Hill as started in 1950.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Agreed and in the meantime its "joe public" who has to pay through higher prices. We're talking all over the shop from food to insurance and everything in between.  And to add insult to injury they "hurt " their own voters/supporters through the actions they have taken. Sadly it gets to a stage where you start thinking about leaving London and even exiting the UK for good, but where to go????? Sad times now and ahead for at least the next 4yrs, hence why Govt and Local Authorities need to cut spending on all but essential services.  An immediate saving, all managerial and executive salaries cannot exceed and frozen at £50K Do away with the Mayor of London, the GLA and all the hanging on organisations, plus do away with borough mayors and the teams that serve them. All added beauracracy that can be dispensed with and will save £££££'s  
    • The minimum wage hikes on top of the NICs increases have also caused vast swathes of unemployment.
    • Exactly - a snap election will make things even worse. Jazzer - say you get a 'new' administration tomorrow, you're still left with the same treasury, the same civil servants, the same OBR, the same think-tanks and advisors (many labour advisors are cross-party, Gauke for eg). The options are the same, no matter who's in power. Labour hasn't even changed the Tories' fiscal rules - the parties are virtually economically aligned these days.  But Reeves made a mistake in trying too hard, too early to make some seismic changes in her first budget as a big 'we're here and we're going to fix this mess, Labour to the rescue' kind of thing . They shone such a big light on the black hole that their only option was to try to fix it overnight. It was a comms clusterfuck.  They'd perhaps have done better sticking to Sunak's quiet, cautious approach, but they knew the gullible public was expecting an 24-hour turnaround miracle.  The NIC hikes are a disaster, I think they'll be reversed soon and enough and they'll keep trying till they find something that sticks.   
    • Totally agree with you.  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...