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"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don?t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we do not know we don?t know." - former US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on February 12, 2002


"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

"Things will not be necessarily continuous.

The fact that they are something other than perfectly continuous

Ought not to be characterized as a pause.

There will be some things that people will see.

There will be some things that people won't see.

And life goes on." Donald Rumsfeld - 2001, Department of Defense news briefing


"What a dick !" - KidKruger

Winston Churchill upon being told by his Butler that the Lord Privy Seal (who had been disrespectful to him earlier that day in the Commmons) had arrived to see him:


"Tell the Lord Privy Seal that I am sealed to my Privy and can only deal with one shit at a time!"

  • 2 weeks later...

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

-Oscar Wilde


This is definately my favourite, but others include:


"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope."

-Martin Luther King Jr.


"The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time."

-Frierich Nietzsche- http://www.postalgold.info/

  • 10 months later...

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