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messageNew library opening 17 Dec
Posted by rollflick 06 December, 2018 08:59

From [twitter.com]

Old Grove Vale library closing on 11 Dec, new one by ED station opening with extended hours on 17 Dec.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by James Barber 06 December, 2018 16:09

Very exciting.
Something I started in 2005. Hugely delayed by the financial crash. Then construction cost inflation. Finally arriving. Hope everyone likes it. Twice floor space f current one. The new Grove Vale library lease is 125 years long on £100 pa versus old lease of £44,000 pa. So huge running cost savings allowing extra opening hours - always my vision

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former Liberal Democrat Councillor for East Dulwich Ward (2006-2018)
[www.jamesbarber.org.uk]
[twitter.com]

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Shaggy 06 December, 2018 16:26

That's great to know. Thanks James.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by worldwiser 06 December, 2018 18:14

Nice work James, proud day for you. My congrats.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Houseoflego 06 December, 2018 18:59

Very exciting, plus new secondary school opening in Jan, thank you!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by philosophie 06 December, 2018 19:00

Great to see libraries get the love and investment they need 🙌

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by se22cat 06 December, 2018 19:30

I can't imagine the amount of crap you had to fight, nor the hours of waffle and attempts at derailing this from finally happening, but, as with all the rest of the fine work Goose Green and the surrounding areas has benefited from, a huge thank you James and I hope you stand for councillor again. I still can't believe the results of the last local election.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by wonderwoman 06 December, 2018 19:43

Well done thank you James.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Passiflora 06 December, 2018 23:15

Just wondering what was wrong with the original Grove Vale library?

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by bels123 06 December, 2018 23:29

Passiflora Wrote:
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> Just wondering what was wrong with the original
> Grove Vale library?

High rent costs. No public toilet.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Fwomble 07 December, 2018 06:46

Thanks James. Good work!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Abe_froeman 07 December, 2018 08:40

Wow, that's a fantastic legacy for your time in office James.

Let's just hope Labour don;t turn it into a gym in a few years time!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by rendelharris 07 December, 2018 09:09

Abe_froeman Wrote:
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> Let's just hope Labour don;t turn it into a gym in
> a few years time!

Let's hope Labour get back into government before the Tories can continue with austerity, having already shut down nearly 500 (over 10%) of public libraries. There's only one party that's a threat to libraries, and unfortunately they're in power (just).

Outwith party politics, thank you very much James for your part in bringing the community such a fabulous new asset; living very close by we're thrilled to have it - and the fact that one can now pick up a decent bottle in the same building to accompany one's reading is icing on the cake!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by treehugger 07 December, 2018 10:28

Well done James, great legacy and great amenity for the community.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by goldilocks 07 December, 2018 10:52

Passiflora Wrote:
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> Just wondering what was wrong with the original
> Grove Vale library?


Without being flippant, have you been in? Aside from the size they don't have accessible toilets and the whole building was shabby and tired. Accessibility was a real problem too as the adult part is really cramped. The new library will have much more 'facilities', though I'm still on the fence about a café in the library.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by rendelharris 07 December, 2018 11:08

Is that definite about a cafe? Can't find anything online about it. Hope it's well soundproofed from the reading/working areas if so!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by James Barber 07 December, 2018 11:08

Hi SE22cat,
You have no idea!

Hi worldwide,
Indeed. But not invite to the opening :o(

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Regards jamesvbarber@gmail.com
former Liberal Democrat Councillor for East Dulwich Ward (2006-2018)
[www.jamesbarber.org.uk]
[twitter.com]

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by goldilocks 07 December, 2018 18:11

No idea whether the café is just hearsay or definite. One of the people working in the existing library mentioned it to my husband but it might have been a misunderstanding. All will be revealed in a couple of weeks I suppose!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by siousxiesue 07 December, 2018 21:31

bels123 Wrote:
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> Passiflora Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just wondering what was wrong with the original
> > Grove Vale library?
>
> High rent costs. No public toilet.

Outside staff toilets!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by James Barber 08 December, 2018 19:02

Cafe is more a stand. Which means an extra pair of eyes always present which should mean longer opening hours. Coffeee stand should be complimentary to the library.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by worldwiser 11 December, 2018 21:26

I think you'd be justified in gatecrashing this one James!

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Passiflora 11 December, 2018 23:13

Just wondering why a café would be needed in a library? Toilets were not an option years ago in Dulwich Library and certainly not in Grove Vale Library but you just coped even though Labour closed down lots of public toilets. Seems like everybody needs to have their cup of coffee on the go these days.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by singalto 12 December, 2018 15:03

There are already several cafes in that area so I can’t see the point of having one in the library.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by nxjen 12 December, 2018 17:02

The cafes in John Harvard and Canada Water libraries are very successful but their positioning within the area is much better in both cases. In the case of the small one in the new Grove Vale library, it will be tucked away from most foot traffic and I can’t see it being so successful but I guess time will tell.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by Nigello 12 December, 2018 17:16

If it raises money and encourages library use, that's good, but if the inevitable spills and littering are not seen to then it won't be worthwhile.

messageRe: New library opening 17 Dec
Posted by se22cat 12 December, 2018 18:25

Personally, I love the idea of a cafe in the new library!

I fail to see how the hell James hasn't got an invite to the opening, or indeed why he hasn't been asked to formally open the library after all his hard work in bringing it to the community. Does it really make any sense not to celebrate and recognise his heartfelt and tireless efforts? Whoever's choice this was, karma is sure going to make their life miserable!


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