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messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Seabag 15 June, 2017 12:30

I had a lovely drink on Saturday, outside in the sun at The Half Moon place.

Some Brew Dog Nanny State thingy, but I can't remember the price.

On the alcohol-free tip, I found Madrid/Spain to be somewhat/ by a country mile ahead of us here in London. Most of the beer brands do a 'sin' on tap and the Mahou Sin being particularly good and Estrella Galicia is excellent


Why not here on tap?

[www.theolivepress.es]

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by KalamityKel 16 June, 2017 08:28

Mick Mac Wrote:
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> > What kind of busy? Thought it was the 13th
> last
> > night? I could, of course, be wrong... winking smiley
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> Drove past and it looked very busy inside and
> outside. Do you want a photograph?

whoa hang on... you caught me out the last time M winking smiley

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Abe_froeman 16 June, 2017 12:34

I found cheap beer in the Flying Pig at happy hour where they have £1 off a pint between 5 and 7pm on weekdays

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by ££££ 16 June, 2017 13:08

DovertheRoad Wrote:
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> Stuck my head in last night about 6pm and had the
> strange sensation of being both pleased and
> disappointed to find it hasnít changed much.
> Refurb summary: a lick of varnish plus a few
> gentlemanís club style chairs.
>
Nearly 2 years closed for 'a lick of varnish' and some new chairs.....bloody hell

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by maxxi 16 June, 2017 20:03

Large 'Brakes' truck unloading there the other day - later seen delivering to the Plough - so the food will be, er, unsurprising. Like the generic beers lined up on the T-Bar pumps.

Maybe they put in an underground pool?

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Jah Lush 17 June, 2017 12:24

Upstairs was converted into a hotel. I'll nip down there for a snifter or two once all the fuss is over the re-opening. Probably a weekday afternoon out front in the sun. It's been a regular haunt of mine since I was a teenager so I'll definitely be giving it a go.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by NewWave 17 June, 2017 20:22

Went there this afternoon for a cheeky G&T with my OH.
Abysmal service...about 10 very young members of staff stood around flapping behind the bar but NOT actually serving people
(a mention here for the only one who seemed in control and working-a VERY tall young guy with dreads if you spot him stand in the area he's at and you'll get a drink he seemed to be the only one actually spotting customers waiting otherwise..good luck!)
finally got served by just asking a guy standing looking gormless staring into space "Hi-can you serve me?"
Got the G&T no lemon no straw no nada (contrast to the Alma in CP where it came with slices of cucumber and I got asked what gin I wanted)-I had to ask for a slice of lemon which lead to him bumbling around some more looking alarmed,
No question about what gin I wanted either-just clueless.
Glanced at menu looked pretty meh-not seasonal at all-Sausage and Mash..today? in 30degree heat!
not even gastro pub style just very kind of wetherspoons £14 for sausage and mash Exclaimation
salad niscoise I think was about a tenner.
they had Ceaser salad which I don't think Ive seen on a menu since the 80's.
In fact the menu looked very dated and most dishes overpriced by a few quid.
Sad because I loved that pub!
A word to management-and I work in retail in the west end so I do know know about service.
GET EXPERIENCED STAFF BEHIND THE BAR-its all well and good having lots of staff but if only one appears to know what he's doing on a busy saturday its not good enough.
give them training-its not enough to know how to use use the till-they need to know about how to serve.
Gin-what gin? our house gin is...would you like lemon in it? or Lime? Cucumber? etc
if you are going to do it do it right.
You're more expensive than Wetherspoons but I'd get more informed service there and a lime in my drink

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by sheff 19 June, 2017 09:24

Similar to the above... The menu isn't great...
We booked for 4 to take advantage of the 50% off... For the quality of food, even that was too expensive. It really wasn't great, or even good.

The service was all over the place, but they were struggling with people coming in to drink and then the food bookings. I'll give the that so soon after opening..

In overview - it's a nice pub for an afternoon drink if you happen to be in the park, but the food is pretty bad...

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by NewWave 19 June, 2017 10:35

But In the old place Ive had really superb Sunday roasts and impromptu meals.
They've taken a perfectly good pub and made it S**t at a huge cost and long closure.
In order to open a hotel?
In these days of airbnb I think opening a hotel in an area outside of a major retail or buisiness hub is commercial suicide unless its a 'boutique' or spa hotel offering food by a renowned chef.
I'm actually pretty angry tbh-I know its first world problems and all that in the general scheme of things but it was our 'go to' pub on warm evenings and lovely in the winter too.
surely the company owning the pub must realise that the general public expect more than just 'MEH' food adiquately cooked? that may be acceptable in Motorway services but elsewhere?
just not on!



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messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by DulwichFox 19 June, 2017 11:41

What did people expect.. ?

Sausage and Mash £14.00 ? Piss Take ??

Sausage and Mash is £7.00 in the EDT.

No doubt many EDF ers will be queing round the block at the C&G and posting back here 'It's about right for around here'

DulwichFox

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by malumbu 19 June, 2017 12:41

A once-great pub that never fails to disappoint these days. Staff hopeless, beer mediocre, clientele lamentable.

Oh, sorry, that was a comment from 2011. But do please add to this further on my favourite old git's pub website [www.beerintheevening.com]

Brakes (aka Brake Brothers) eh? So home cooked food (not home made) and the same pub grub from Newquay to Newcastle

Reminds me of the Woodlouse. Trouble is no doubt it will be packed and some of the more discerning views on this thread wont make the slightest difference.

If you've got time go down to Borough andgo to a real pub or two - The Royal Oak, or the Lord Clyde

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by titch juicy 19 June, 2017 12:42

Sounds like a joy.

I didn't realise you could get away with charging £14 for sausage and mash. I should've opened a pub years ago.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Jah Lush 19 June, 2017 12:59

I'm really not surprised by the poor service. It's been shoddy service in there for 35 years and nothing has changed. What did you expect, it's run by Mitchell & Butlers. Again this doesn't reflect well on the rapacious landlords Dulwich Estates. They couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. It's such a shame because it is a lovely spot to sit out front in the summer months. I didn't think it could get any worse but it obviously has. West End prices for a Dog's dinner.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Jeremy 19 June, 2017 13:20

The food has always been bloody horrible there.

The same chain, but with a refurb and a bog standard hotel shoehorned in above it... not sure what you were expecting! Hopefully it will still be nice for a pint and bag of crisps out the front in the summer, but would never consider eating there.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by TheCat 19 June, 2017 13:37

We went yesterday for Fathers day, and to take advantage of the 50% food soft opening...

The Good:
- I don't mind the refurb. Not a huge amount has changed in the pub itself (obviously its the hotel annexe that was the problem/delay). But, you can moan all you like about service and price, the big draw of this pub for people has always been its size, location and and copious outside space. None of this has really changed.
- Unlike some of the other critics above on this thread, we actually ordered and tasted the food, as opposed to just eyeing the menu. It was very good. Better than previously. I'm not commenting here on the price (see below), but every meal we had was decent.

The Bad:
- I'll agree with the comments about young, inexperienced staff, who looked a bit shell-shocked to be there. Hopefully this will improve with time.
- Originally, they weren't serving food outside, and as part of the soft opneing were only serving food to pre-booked tables in the dining area and covered rear courtyard. We (along with nearly every other group) asked if we could sit outside on a 30 degree day. Were told 'No' as only serving food to tables in the 'designated area' as part of soft launch. After we'd been sat for 30mins, they obviously got asked the question by every single group that came in, and changed their minds, and started seating people outside in the garden. Change of policy was a bit annoying as we'd already started eating, and werent asked if e'd like to move. I mean its not like it was a surprise that sunday was a hot sunny day, they should have just moved their 'serving area' to outside as basically everyone wanted to get outside. basically a bit naive and disorganised.
- it is pricey for what it is. But regardless, its still a pub where I would go to sit outside with a pint, and probably order a meal (accepting the fact that I'll pay a few more quid over what I would pay elsewhere)

I suspect it will continue to be busy on the weekends as it always has been; as there will be many like me, who like its situation and will put up with the downsides for that pleasure. Basically for the pub goer, apart from a lick of paint and slightly nicer food, its pretty much the same.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by DulwichFox 19 June, 2017 14:17

It's a bit of a stroll for many of us..

But Like Golf, sounds like It's a nice walk ruined.

Foxy

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Louisa 19 June, 2017 15:01

None of the above comes as a surprise. Still good for a drink on a walk for me, but won't be paying the best part of a score for sausage & mash. The Dulwich Estate surpasses itself once more.

Nice tables out the front though.

Louisa.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Help-Ma-Boab 19 June, 2017 17:23

Are the windows big enough to be seen in? Asking for a friend...

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by ££££ 19 June, 2017 17:23

So, crap service and crap food - plus ca change

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Mick Mac 19 June, 2017 17:32

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:
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> Are the windows big enough to be seen in? Asking
> for a friend...

I thought you normally sat outside HMB.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Louisa 19 June, 2017 18:56

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:
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> Are the windows big enough to be seen in? Asking
> for a friend...

There's a few people on here HMB who probably went up on the soft opening night to 'be seen' sat in the front garden. Thinking about it, half of those people requesting to 'eat their food out the front cos it's a nice day', more than likely just wanted to 'be seen' attending the long awaited reopening yada yada. All the predictable suspects, wanting to spend 20 quid on a basic meal so that people can stare at them. Don't get me stared.

Louisa.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Seabag 19 June, 2017 19:08

Louisa Wrote:
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> Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:
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> > Are the windows big enough to be seen in?
> Asking
> > for a friend...
>
> There's a few people on here HMB who probably went
> up on the soft opening night to 'be seen' sat in
> the front garden. Thinking about it, half of those
> people requesting to 'eat their food out the front
> cos it's a nice day', more than likely just wanted
> to 'be seen' attending the long awaited reopening
> yada yada. All the predictable suspects, wanting
> to spend 20 quid on a basic meal so that people
> can stare at them. Don't get me stared.
>
> Louisa.


Sadly Lou, this place just doesn't have that cache.

I think they sat staring at each other, and I swear as I passed a woman mouthed "H E L P !" at me.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Wimpole 19 June, 2017 20:26

££££ Wrote:
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> So, crap service and crap food - plus ca change

Exactly. Just business as usual at M&B folks. A wasted opportunity really. Wish that old Hotel Du Vin rumour had been true.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Mick Mac 20 June, 2017 09:53

I'm in two minds, in a way its a shame that it didn't get a recognisable facelift, but many will like that it retained the old character.

I thought the Irish bar manager from the Plough was taking over? If so I'd suggest he will get his staff in order and all will be fine in due course.

The food will just be the food you'd expect from MB unfortunately.

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Sue 20 June, 2017 11:40

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:
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> Are the windows big enough to be seen in? Asking
> for a friend...


big grin big grin big grin

messageRe: Crown & Greyhound to reopen on 14 June
Posted by Tanday 20 June, 2017 16:27

Had a meal on Saturday as part of the soft launch. Glad it was 50% off as it was pretty uninspiring stuff. Dry sourdough and asian style chicken wings for starters. They were out of steaks so guinea fowl for mains which was ok but salty and portion size not worth the full £17. Sticky toffee pudding for desert was fine.

Service was very chaotic but I'm sure this will improve. Men's toilet had a burst tap and the whole floor was flooded. There were also problems with the card machines which meant that dinners had to quick up at the busy bar to pay for dinner.

Won't be eating here again, but a good pub for drinking.

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