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messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by katanita May 29, 04:03PM

Dear Councillors,

There seems to be very little information about the paid-for garden waste bag scheme. There is no mention of this at all on the leaflets that were sent out. I can see no mention on the main page about garden waste on the Southwark website, and have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the FAQs before it appears. [www.southwark.gov.uk] This copy says you can order bags from the main website, but there is no apparent way to do this from the front page of the site, nor any information about how to book a collection. Is there a reason that this is so hidden? Or am I missing something?

Please can this be clarified here and on the website with more detailed information about how this scheme works and a working link to order them or book a pick up? I would also like to know if the Southwark bags I have already for garden waste will still be able to be used for this or whether they are now useless and I have to order more. I will have a bag ready to go soon and don't much fancy trying to cycle to the waste recycling centre with it.

Many thanks

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by jamesmcash May 29, 06:36PM

Hi all

Thanks for all your comments and questions. Let me try to respond to them.

Garden waste
Funding of public services
I believe that public services should be provided universally, free at the point of use and funded through progressive taxation. So I have a huge amount of sympathy for anyone who disagrees with the introduction of a collection charge. Unfortunately, I think that this is probably the least-bad option available to us given the dire state of local government funding after a decade of austerity.

Environmental impact
It is true that if people stop using the garden waste collection and instead put the waste in the landfill, this will have a negative environmental impact. However, this has to be weighed against potential positives:
- More efficient routes - the council currently visits many properties who do not use the service, with the charge the council will only visit subscribers
- Greater uptake of composting

There will also be a push to increase food waste collection. For instance, there is an ongoing trial into providing these bins for blocks of flats.

I will push for the council to evaluate the environmental impact of the policy and practice.

Vehicles
There is longer term pending waste legislation requiring the council to collect food and garden waste seperately and send them off to different disposal routes. However, initially the food and garden waste collections will be done by the same vehicles.

Food waste
If you currently use the food waste collection service you will not need to do anything different.

Collections
Both food waste and garden waste will be collected weekly. This may be on a different day for some residents but if so you will be informed of this change.

Paper sacks
It will still be possible to arrange for garden waste to be collected from the paper sacks provided by the council. The sacks will cost £15 for 20. Collections will be free but have to be arranged. As far as I know anyone with existing paper sacks will continue to be able to use these but I am going to check this for certain. It should be possible to order the new ones from June.

People using neighbour’s bins
I do not know of this being a significant issue elsewhere but if it does happen here then please let me know and I will look into it.

Stickers
I am not sure when the stickers will arrive but if you have any issue with the bins not being collected after you have paid for them please do let me know and I will chase it up.




CPZ
Time of operation
In the smaller ‘East Dulwich Grove’ area proposed by me and my fellow councillors (not the ‘Melbourne Grove’ area proposed by the council officers, see previous posts above for distinction) there is a clear majority for an all day CPZ.

Prioritising views of residents regarding their own roads
The consultation asked residents if they want a CPZ on their road. It is true that it could have instead asked if residents want a CPZ in their wider area. I can see the case for the latter: it is undoubtedly true that the impact of a CPZ is felt beyond its boundaries. Nonetheless, I think the method the council adopted is preferable because it allows us to design a bespoke area which suits the maximum number of people.

Impact on Lordship Lane
A significant number of respondents to the consultation raised concerns regarding the impact of a CPZ on Lordship Lane’s businesses. We councillors listened to this and that influenced our decision to recommend the shrink the size of the proposed zone so that the vast majority of streets used by Lordship Lane customers will be unaffected.

East Dulwich station
The number of journeys started or ended at East Dulwich station has quadrupled over the past twenty years. It would have been hard for residents to have predicted this when choosing to live there.

Access to consultation data
The street-by-street data will be made publicly available as part of the final report, on which Cllr Livingstone will make his final decision.

(Ed_pete: I think you misread my sentence yourself actually! Perhaps you read ‘than’ as ‘that’. Thanks anyway though, I have definitely made typos on here in the past! )




Pavement slabs
I am not sure how much has been spent on pavement slabs in Goose Green. There is a process for working out which pavement slabs should be replaced based on an evaluation of their deterioration and a calculation of how often they are used. I have on a few occasions had people ask me to arrange for some pavement to be replaced. This is the first time I have ever had someone complain that the pavements are too nice or too new!

If anyone has any issues with a particular bit of pavement please let me know by email with a photo and an address.



I hope that this answers your questions.

Best wishes
James

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk
[twitter.com]

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Rockets May 30, 04:36PM

James,
I not sure anyone complained about the paving slabs - perhaps you misinterpreted the post.

Numerous times you have posted on here (in defence of raising revenues via a CPZ) that the council has lost central government funding and now has to raise revenues by other means to protect essential services - yet at the same time the council manages to find money to replace huge swaths of paving slabs across the wards. And these are not one or two slabs but whole streets - take a walk around the area next time you are here to see for yourself - we received notification that our street will be having the works done in a couple of weeks.

Could you find out how much has been spent on this project that Conway is executing on behalf of the council?

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by katanita May 31, 04:12PM

Thank you for answering on garden waste bags James. It would be good if details about this service were more prominent on the council website, including whether we can use existing bags.

On a related note, what do we do with our food bags from next week? I have yet to receive the new caddy and it sounds like others haven't received theirs yet either?

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by jamesmcash May 31, 05:35PM

Dear Rockets and Katanita

Katanita - I agree, it's not as clear as it should be. It took me a fair while to work out the answer to everyone's questions.

Can you email me with your name and address? I will look into where your food waste bin is and see if I can hurry it along.

Rockets - email me with your name and address and I will look into the pavement works on your street, find out why they are being done, and look into how much they cost. I appreciate that you are making a more general political point but if in addition there are any concerns with how the roadwork are being carried out then do make sure you note that too.

Best wishes
James

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk
[twitter.com]

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by first mate May 31, 05:48PM

Katanita,

You are not alone. Having paid £25 for the new garden waste service, I have yet to hear anything that makes sense about delivery of brown bin and sticker. James Barber posted that they will take 60 days to arrive. Surely this is not true?

James ( McAsh) Is there any clarity on when the bins and sticker will be delivered and until then what happens to garden waste collection for those, like me, who have paid up for the service?

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by rollflick June 01, 07:55AM

At this rate the government's proposed ban on garden waste charges will have come in by the time we get the stickers! see: [www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk]

With Southwark now having the 2nd highest number of reported garden waste fly tipping in the whole of the UK, wonder how much worse it will get? [www.standard.co.uk]

So a right mess on the garden waste as well as the CPZ plans, definitely living in a 'you could not make this up' borough.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by ed_pete June 02, 02:50PM

James - so you originally said that the street-by-street CPZ data couldn't be made public because of "due to data protection concerns." Now you say it is to be included in the final report. I don't get this. It looks as though you are deliberately withholding information that will be released after the recommendation has been made so that you can make your argument unchallenged.
It's also interesting that your recommendation of the "East Dulwich Grove Area" rather than the "Melbourne Grove Area" was made partly on the basis that "it contains a group of roads where most residents oppose controlled parking", to quote your article in SE22 magazine. You have yet to demonstrate the group of roads west of the Melbourne Grove / EDG junction have a majority in favour. As I have said before, in that area we have a group of roads where we have 4 for, 6 against and 4 undecided. Hardly a majority.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by jamesmcash June 02, 03:16PM

Hi ed_pete

I am not a data protection expert so I do not know exactly why these data have not yet been released. The version I have is in a different format to that which has been used for the final report for previous consultations so that might be something to do with it. As I say, you will get the figures eventually though.

Best wishes
James

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk
[twitter.com]

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by ed_pete June 02, 03:38PM

James - I'm not looking for a conspiracy but this really stinks from my perspective.
The street-by-street data was available for the collation of the consultation report but someone must have decided it shouldn't be included. No reason creditable reason has been given. It was made available to yourself and the other councillors and you have used it to make your recommendations. Concerns about data protection were used as an excuse for not releasing the information to the public to enable them to counter your proposals, concerns that must now be seen as false on the basis that this information - though we do not know in what form - will be included in Richard Livingstone's final report.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by TheArtfulDogger June 02, 03:55PM

James

Having dealt with data protection for many years in various guises, the rules are that individuals can not be identified by the data released but summarised views of anonymous data can be released.(this is also true for councillors who should not be able to identify individuals in the data they see)

For example this allows for a street by street summary of how the responses stack up, but not how an individual responded.

As ed_pete points out, this does raise concerns that the council are using the data to support their argument, and not allowing the public access to the same summary data to allow counter arguments to be put forward.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Rockets June 03, 06:35PM

James,
The paving replacement works have been taking place along the length of Goodrich Road and have now reached the junction with Hillcourt Road.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Abe_froeman June 04, 01:42PM

James, is the redacted data in the final CPZ report going to be the same data you privately sent to select individuals or will it be different?

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by AylwardS June 04, 07:11PM

Abe_froeman if I’ve understood correctly the CPZ data publicly available is in the report, Cllr McNash has other data but has not shared it. Its unclear what the final data will be, from experience dealing with Councils I’d say that will depend on the person putting it together.
In his post on 1 May (page 13) Cllr McNash said
“…I can see why the post from ed_moots (23 April, page 12) made you think that I have shared the dataset with others but I can assure you that all I shared there were the handful of percentages included in their post above. As far as I know, the only people with access to the full dataset are the councillors and council officers.”

Looks like there is at least another month before any more will be known. The decision, to go to formal consultation, has been published in the forward plan for July. [moderngov.southwark.gov.uk] Until the associated papers are published there’ll be no more information available.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by MarkT June 05, 02:34PM

James, on the subject of the Council’s plan to introduce a borough-wide CPZ:

May 6 I quoted Southwark’s Local Implementation Plan, dated October 2018
“• To enable us to better manage limited space, we will introduce more Controlled Parking Zones with the aim of covering the whole borough by 2025.”

May 15th, you responded:
MarkT and TheArtfullDogger
Thanks for raising this with me. I have looked it into and am still confused by the reference in this document. Cllr Livingstone is looking into it further but assures me that nothing borough-wide is currently planned. Looking at trends across London and other major cities, it is believed that demand for controls will increase over the coming decades but that is not consistent with the 2025 date you quoted. I will find out more and let you know.

Hi MarkT
Just realised that the document you linked was a consultation document and not the final version. The final version includes no reference to 2025 and instead talks about a general strategy to reduce car use by 13% by 2041.

James,
I see now that you are correct in that the document I had previously quoted was the draft and not the final version.

Southwark’s Local Implementation Plan 3 Final March 2019, states on page 25,
Mission 4 Reduce Traffic - How – “Introduce Borough wide CPZ”

So, Cllr Livingstone assures you that nothing borough-wide is planned.

So, you apparently read the relevant section in the final version, noted the removal of the 2025 date, but you did not confirm the retention of the words “Introduce Borough wide CPZ”.

So, between the draft plan published in October 2018, and the final version published in March 2019, the Council carried out an elaborate “consultation” on local CPZs, promising selective introduction, while the outcome is already determined by the Local Implementation Plan to introduce a Borough wide CPZ.

James, in your responses above, you focussed on the date of 2025, which is of course irrelevant to our line of inquiry. The relevant fact, which is now clear to me, if not to you and Cllr Livingstone, that Southwark Council Plans to introduce a Borough-wide CPZ.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Abe_froeman June 05, 03:32PM

Unbelievable.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Penguin68 June 06, 09:48AM

Unbelievable.

Inevitable

[www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk]

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by singalto June 06, 07:58PM

If I understand correctly the government wants to ban garden waste collection charges so why is Southwark spending loads on stickers and caddies ( which they don’t, in fact, have)? I have paid my £25 but like everyone else I have no sticker or caddie!

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by first mate June 07, 07:21AM

I assume that James McAsh will clarify what, on the face of it, looks to be an appalling shambles. Does this mean the consultations have been a waste of time - not to mention money- or are they necessary to trigger a borough-wide CPZ?

MarkT Wrote:
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> James, on the subject of the Council’s plan to
> introduce a borough-wide CPZ:
>
> May 6 I quoted Southwark’s Local Implementation
> Plan, dated October 2018
> “• To enable us to better manage limited space, we
> will introduce more Controlled Parking Zones with
> the aim of covering the whole borough by 2025.”
>
> May 15th, you responded:
> MarkT and TheArtfullDogger
> Thanks for raising this with me. I have looked it
> into and am still confused by the reference in
> this document. Cllr Livingstone is looking into it
> further but assures me that nothing borough-wide
> is currently planned. Looking at trends across
> London and other major cities, it is believed that
> demand for controls will increase over the coming
> decades but that is not consistent with the 2025
> date you quoted. I will find out more and let you
> know.
>
> Hi MarkT
> Just realised that the document you linked was a
> consultation document and not the final version.
> The final version includes no reference to 2025
> and instead talks about a general strategy to
> reduce car use by 13% by 2041.
>
> James,
> I see now that you are correct in that the
> document I had previously quoted was the draft and
> not the final version.
>
> Southwark’s Local Implementation Plan 3 Final
> March 2019, states on page 25,
> Mission 4 Reduce Traffic - How – “Introduce
> Borough wide CPZ”
>
> So, Cllr Livingstone assures you that nothing
> borough-wide is planned.
>
> So, you apparently read the relevant section in
> the final version, noted the removal of the 2025
> date, but you did not confirm the retention of the
> words “Introduce Borough wide CPZ”.
>
> So, between the draft plan published in October
> 2018, and the final version published in March
> 2019, the Council carried out an elaborate
> “consultation” on local CPZs, promising selective
> introduction, while the outcome is already
> determined by the Local Implementation Plan to
> introduce a Borough wide CPZ.
>
> James, in your responses above, you focussed on
> the date of 2025, which is of course irrelevant to
> our line of inquiry. The relevant fact, which is
> now clear to me, if not to you and Cllr
> Livingstone, that Southwark Council Plans to
> introduce a Borough-wide CPZ.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Borderlands June 08, 06:38PM

Just seen the correspondence on this.

Rang Southwark Council "customer services" and they said to obtain paper garden waste bags I needed to send an email to environment@southwark.gov.uk. I did this in the full knowledge that this will be completely pointless. Why didn't someone proof-read the webpage and notice there was no link to place an order + payment?

And why do we have to ring up to then arrange a special collection? Does this mean paper bags can't be picked up at the same time that garden waste in big brown bins are collected from my neighbours?

I've paid the £25 but I really can't see why I can't just leave any garden waste bags I've filled up in the way I have done for the past few years (having bought the bags from a commercial online supplier). Why is a special phone call needed for the one or two bags I might fill in a month? Idiotic.

Are you listening Southwark Council? I don't want or need another huge unsightly plastic bin to add to the pavement clutter that already exists. What is to be done?


katanita Wrote:
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> Dear Councillors,
>
> There seems to be very little information about
> the paid-for garden waste bag scheme. There is no
> mention of this at all on the leaflets that were
> sent out. I can see no mention on the main page
> about garden waste on the Southwark website, and
> have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the
> FAQs before it appears.
> [www.southwark.gov.uk]
> rden-waste-collection-subscriptions?chapter=2 This
> copy says you can order bags from the main
> website, but there is no apparent way to do this
> from the front page of the site, nor any
> information about how to book a collection. Is
> there a reason that this is so hidden? Or am I
> missing something?
>
> Please can this be clarified here and on the
> website with more detailed information about how
> this scheme works and a working link to order them
> or book a pick up? I would also like to know if
> the Southwark bags I have already for garden waste
> will still be able to be used for this or whether
> they are now useless and I have to order more. I
> will have a bag ready to go soon and don't much
> fancy trying to cycle to the waste recycling
> centre with it.
>
> Many thanks

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by jamesmcash June 08, 06:49PM

Dear all

Thanks for your comments and questions.

Garden waste
There has been an ICT issue which has led to a delay in the distribution of stickers. They will be sent out next week. There is a grace period before collections cease so this should not affect anyone.

I am still chasing up information about the bags. Sorry it is taking so long!


Data for CPZ consultation
AylwardS is right - I have not shared the dataset with anyone. A fuller picture of the data will be available when the final report is released next month.


Borough-wide CPZ
The Southwark Local Implementation Plan 3 states that the council wants to reduce trips made by car/motorbike to 13% by 2041. It further states that introducing a borough-wide CPZ would be a means of achieving this. Personally, I do not think that this is necessary. I think that the council's current policy - to be led by requests from local people - is the right one. But there are 22 years (and 5 local elections!) to discuss this before we reach that deadline.

Of course, there are definitely some people who would like to see this happen and want to see it sooner. I am not one of them though - and I will continue to argue in favour of existing policy


Rockets - Please email me with your name and address, and if you are in Goose Green I will be happy to take on this casework. If not, I will pass your concern onto the relevant councillors.

Best wishes
James

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk
[twitter.com]

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by jamesmcash June 08, 06:50PM

How can we improve East Dulwich train station?

The government has forced Govia Thameslink Railway to introduce a £15m fund for passenger benefit.

£30,000 will be spent on improving train stations in Southwark. East Dulwich is one of the ones on the list.

You can submit your ideas until 31st July. Just email transport@southwark.gov.uk

Other Southwark train stations eligible are: Denmark Hill, North Dulwich, Nunhead, Peckham Rye, Queen’s Road Peckham, South Bermondsey

More information on how to submit your idea is on GTR’s website: [www.passengerbenefitfund.co.uk]

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk
[twitter.com]

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by first mate June 08, 07:12PM

Thanks for your reply James,

In regard to garden waste, some like me have paid up the £25 but have no brown bin or sticker! At the time of signing up and paying, I asked for and ordered both a brown bin and a sticker. You say the stickers are on the way but what about the bins?

Historically I have used brown bags so I take it the waste company will continue to collect these until the mystery bins and stickers finally appear?

I have tried and failed on four separate occasions to phone into the relevant department and get any coherent explanation of what is going on or a timeframe for delivery of the bins.

Why has Southwark taken payment for a system that has not yet been properly setup and organised?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was june 08, 07:15pm by first mate.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by jamesmcash June 08, 07:26PM

Hi First Mate

I think your bin should arrive at the same time as the sticker. Let me know if it doesn't arrive within two weeks and I will chase it up!

Best wishes
James

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk
[twitter.com]

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by first mate June 08, 11:01PM

Thanks James and fingers crossed.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by MarkT June 09, 01:51AM

James, you wrote:
"Borough-wide CPZ
The Southwark Local Implementation Plan 3 states that the council wants to reduce trips made by car/motorbike to 13% by 2041. It further states that introducing a borough-wide CPZ would be a means of achieving this. Personally, I do not think that this is necessary. I think that the council's current policy - to be led by requests from local people - is the right one. But there are 22 years (and 5 local elections!) to discuss this before we reach that deadline.
Of course, there are definitely some people who would like to see this happen and want to see it sooner. I am not one of them though - and I will continue to argue in favour of existing policy."

James,
the 'Final' version of the Local Implementation Plan, surely, is Council Policy. So what instead are you claiming as the 'current','existing', policy?

In your earlier response you wrote:
"I have looked it into and am still confused by the reference in this document. Cllr Livingstone is looking into it further but assures me that nothing borough-wide is currently planned."

If Cllr Livingstone, the Cabinet member with direct individual responsibility for this, is unaware of current policy, then the policy is clearly being defined, not by elected members, but by officers. If it is those policy makers that you say want the Borough-wide CPZ and want it sooner, then I do not find it reassuring that they have scrubbed the date of 2025, and I am unconvinced by your reassurance that they imply instead a target of 2041. If so, your suggestion that the policy might be changed by the outcome of any of the next 5 elections, would seem to be misguided, and your personal view irrelevant.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by rollflick June 09, 08:31AM

James just keeps on digging...unfortunately digging the hole he's in, rather than about the council's decision to continue with introducing garden waste charges despite the govt announcing its plan to ban them in February.

The resident consent policy for CPZs was contained in the 2011 transport policy, which has now been replaced by the 2019 movement plan & LIP3. So it's no longer policy, end of story.

With Southwark's own monitoring showing its progress meeting most of its transport objectives (road safety, air quality etc. etc.) stalling or even going backwards since 2013, it's incredible to hear James suggest the council should keep on twiddling its thumbs, splurging council tax on yet more consultants for traffic studies etc. for 20 years before it might actually need to take real action.

In terms of a CPZ not being necessary to reduce traffic, collisions, air pollution and carbon emissions (don't forget Southwark's pledge to go carbon neutral by 2030), it would be helpful if James could explain what other measures he 'personally' (does that mean this is a matter of faith for him, rather than about evidence?) believes in?

Alternative measures for mode shift & traffic reduction are set out in the guidance to officers on third LIPs available at [tfl.gov.uk]
Many of those listed are nice to haves, e.g. Legible London wayfinding signage for walking and delivery collection points, as part of a wider package but won't reduce traffic significantly in themselves. The significant ones are:

-Deliver Cycle Superhighway and Quietway programmes supported by local cycle networks. [NB plans for Lordship Lane to be Superhighway were scrapped, while the Southwark Spine proposals through here were so poor TfL rejected them]
-Expand cycle hire [promised for whole borough in Labour's 2014 manifesto but err...]
-Use filtered permeability [road restrictions] to create low-vehicle zones across inner London.
-Apply the Healthy Streets Approach wherever possible to deliver vehicle-free town centres and local centres accessed by quality bus, cycling and walking routes and served by off-peak freight deliveries.
-Reduce parking across inner London, particularly in town centres and at other major car trip generators. Expand CPZ coverage.
-Local congestion charging options, and workplace parking levies.
-Significant re-allocation of road space to bus and cycle on radial routes, potentially creating some bike- and bus-only corridors.
-Incentivise inner London residents to give up parking on residential streets.
-Increase land use density to enable car-free living.
-Ensure the vehicles that do remain are the cleanest possible, for example, emissions-based parking permits.
-Review local restrictions that prevent night-time deliveries.
-Systematic re-allocation of residential parking to other kerbside activity, including cycle parking.

Southwark's policy is to introduce a CPZ primarily as a traffic and pollution reduction measure. As a matter of law the CPZ consultation ought to have provided an opportunity for people opposed to a CPZ (or wanting a more limited version) to set out alternative means to achieve the same effects, such as from the list above. It didn't do that, the whole thing is total a mess.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by edbloke June 09, 10:12PM

Question for the councillors:
Great to see evidence of Southwark engaging with Ubitricity to create a network of lamp post charging points for electric vehicles in SE22.

I need to change my car and I’d love it to be electric but I don’t have a driveway where I can install a charging point, so I would be reliant on these converted lampposts.

There are at least 4 Ubitricity lamposts near where I live, so all good so far... but the space next to the lamppost is not reserved for electric vehicles!
Until LB Southwark dedicates these few isolated bays, in the same way that a disabled space or city car club bay is marked out, then it’s pointless installing the charging points, as anyone can park there.

Please can someone tell me Southwark is aware of this issue, on top of it, and in the process of resolving?
Many thanks in advance.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Nigello June 10, 02:08PM

Edbloke, I agree with you. I have no skin the game, not having any vehicle, and I pointed this out the other week. I fear it is greenwashing and very frustrating for those who want/need to charge up their car/van. It makes no sense to have electric chargers on lampposts and then not reserve the space near them for electric vehicles.

messageRe: Goose Green councillors - how can we help?
Posted by Abe_froeman June 10, 02:15PM

Those who want/need to charge up their car/van could just park by their won homes instead and run a cable from their own electricity supply.

I don't agree at all with the council providing free electricity indiscriminately for people to run expensive electric vehicles. It's literally a free for all for people from outside southwark and for businesses to fuel their vehicle for free when we have poor people in the borough living in squalid conditions because the council supposedly has no money.

It also flies in the face of all the BS posted above about the council implementing CPZs in our streets to try to discourage people from using cars.

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