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Strange sense of deja vu. Is the search function working this morning? http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,106737,106737#msg-106737

CamberwellOz, there's already quite a lively debate going on about this here... http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,116868

That would include me, I suppose. The subject telephone consultations in primary care is quite complex and impacts very directly on my workload as a front line hospital doctor. So, I do have opnions on it, but there are a couple of reasons I haven't got involved in this one. This thread has a slight anti-doctor feel that I really don't have the energy to get into and I'm definitely not up to locking horns with ???? over the NHS. More importantly, I just don't have time this morning. My working day started just before 8am with a debrief with one of the junior doctors about problems during the night shift. I've now got a teching session to write and present for the juniors and a huge backlog of audit data to enter before my 10 hour clinical shift starts at 1pm. It's an easy life here in the NHS. Sorry if this sounds a little jaded, but I am this morning.

*GASP* SeanMac in bad grammar shocker! No, actually I can't find it on this thread. I'm quite common it seems - one of 158. My maiden name is less common, only 75 of them, but I like being annaJ.

Thanks. I'm sure next week's line-up is better, but it's this week that I'm looking for a nice diverting activity to fill a potentially awkward evening!

And do you have an opinion on that Tony, or did you register just to inform us? I'm just curious. Seems a bit odd to me to care enough to post for the first time, but not express an opinion either way.

Not the annual exhibition of fancy boats, but the comedy night on the Tattershall Castle (the big boat opposite the London Eye)? I'm looking for something to do with friends tomorrow night and found an offer for tickets for this on lastminute.com. The last time I went to the Tattershall Castle was many years ago, very late at night, very drunk, so I can't quite picture it as a comedy venue, or anything other than a sticky floored, sleezy disco. Any thoughts?

Welcome back to the debate Maximay. I never denied there were people out there voting for the BNP, that is exactly what I find so alarming. Now that you're back are you planning to address the questions that were put to you and explain or defend your comment that "there's nothing wrong with the BNP"?

Green Door - Shakin' Stevens!

The drinks are at the Mag. I just wanted to check that the two weren't going to clash forcing us to make difficult decisions. Jah, women do stare, MrJ's bottom was one of the first things I noticed about him, but not quite in the same way I don't think. I wouldn't look at the bottom of a man I didn't fancy or who was a friend, but men (in my experience) can't help staring at any breasts they encounter. I've always said there are two types of men; men who stare and eclipse men. Men who stare is pretty self explanatory. Eclipse men are those who treat the breasts like an eclipse and never look directly at them, and so employ a glance and look away technique. I don't mind eclipse men, some of my best friends are eclipse men, the way I see it having the courtesy to pretend not to look is a mark of respect. But don't take any of this too seriously, the original comment was a joke - put a winky face on and everything.

aggie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, my goodness! I didn't know that this was a > Labour site. It's not. PGC was referring to the site that the original link came from. Or was that a clever joke that I took too literally?

All men stare at chests Keef, at least you'd have an excuse ;-) *awaits storm of righteously indignant men protesting their innocence* By the way, isn't 9th May the second Friday of the month, so due to be an open mic night. Don't want to put a spanner in the works or anything, but did realise that the other night.

Don't be nervous Moos, it was a good post. I made a smiliar point in a previous thread that started off about where to go drinking and finished on personal boundries. Ask SeanMac, he'll explain ;-) Being drawn to people you identify with for whatever reason, and therefore to an extent being prejudiced against those you don't, is part of human nature. The important thing is how you choose to respond to those feelings and how you behaviour and beliefs are modified by them. I would also agree that it's only by recognising and acknowledging our prejudices that we can overcome them.

Steve, I agree that the debate should be had and everyone should be allowed to express their opinions. I don't think my post was irrate, heated or defensive. I simply expressed my opinion and asked a series of questions provoked by your post. That, as I understand it, is debate.

Happy Birthday Anna! Have a great day x Anna!

Steve, I don't have time to address this as fully as I'd like to, but I can't say nothing in response to that post. As Sean and Lizzy have already pointed out, the shoe polish was named after the offensive term, not the other way around. It's a word that was originally used to refer to the slaves and has been used since to oppress and insult since then. I'll concede that it's use now, in music and youth culture, is contraversial and there are those who'll argue that it's empowering, but it's use in the past was unquestionably offensive. That you didn't think so as a child reflects your lack of awareness of it's connotations and origin, not that it was a harmless word. As for the concept that rascism is just looking out for your own, it is flawed in so many ways. Like Sean, I'm perplexed by the concept of white people all being one race when clearly we are all a mix of many ethnic influences over time - I, for example, am short, olive skinned and dark haired, MrJ is a foot taller than me, pink skinned and blonde. Do we have the same genetic origins? Almost certainly not, but we are both caucasian English. Even if you suspend disbelief and accept that concept, what about this idea of "tribalism"? Where are the boundries? Is my tribe my family? My friends? My race? My species? And why do I need to fight for "my own"? I don't feel under attack. There is more I could say, but real life calls.

buggie, you'll be missed. I promise not to let anyone end up in A&E, especially not your area ;-) Steve, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Umm... scroll up 11 posts and see my advice to cannonni!

Oh dear, serious wire crossing giggirl. I don't work at DMC and I'm certainly not the fabulously glamourous Dr Bhatia. I work in a not very glamourous hospital far enough away from ED that I'm not likely to ever encounter any forumites. I was just making the point that it shouldn't really be a surprise to find a female doctor who is also fashionable and has a personality.

ps have just realised that I have met too many people on here face-to-face to get away with calling myself fashionable. I'll stick with just having a personality!

Oh I'm sure it happens in other industries too, Pickle. Don't worry, I'm not seriously offended, just a little tired and grumpy today. It's hard work being fashionable, having a personality and working shifts ;-)

Pickle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not meant to be mean - she's an excellent > doctor, just seems streets ahead of all the other > doctors I've ever come across in terms of > personality and fashion sense! :) I don't want to seem like I've had a total sense of humour failure, because actaully your first post did make me laugh, but it is a bit of a dated stereotype to think that a doctor can't be a fashionable woman with a personality. Sadly, it still surprises people of all ages and backgrounds when their doctor is a young woman and I still get called nurse every day. Although your nickname is lighthearted it does reflect the belief that doctors have to be stuffy men in suits. I don't dress glamourously for work, it wouldn't really be appropriate for the area I work in, but I'd like to think I have a personality. I certainly know and work with lots of dynamic, fashionable, charismatic and interesting women who also happen to be doctors.

Steady on Steve, it's not that big a deal. I just noticed in the pictures I'm the only person who still had mine on and it looks a bit dorky!

but where's the fun in that?

MelbourneGr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I live in the comfort that the BNP will never > amount to anything serious. Unfortunately, it is that sort of dismissive complacency that allows them to quietly gather support without anyone noticing. The whole point of this thread is that they are already being taken seriously in some areas and you even said youself how easy it would be to be sucked in by their marketing. As several people have already said, it'a really important to look at their policies and open up the debate in order to expose how unpleasant, unethical and unworkable they really are.