I was about to tell Matthew to change the record, then I read And now feel less inclined to tell Matthew to shut up, and more inclined to answer the question. The answer is SP, that Liverpool would more than likely have even more cups than they already do, being that they missed out on 3 European cup places, and one cup winners cup place. Man U missed out one one cup winners cup place, so there! The ban sucked, and ys, Liverpool fans played a huge part, but bringing it up there was low, and the kind of thing that would make you throw your toys out of the pram. RE: Ferguson, I agree, it is surprising that United haven't won more European cups in his time, given what they've won at home. If anything Matthew, can't you take pleasure in that? Honestly, you kids.