No it's not, I agree, and all too often the nation rises up in disgust because one bloke did something somewhere, and the press got hold of it. What gets to me on here (not just this thread, this one just happened to tip me) is the tone of some posts, they come across as patronising, superior, and basically far from any real experience (I believe what you say above, I can also relate, but like I say I am not just talking about this thread, and I certainly am not just talking about you). I have said to you in person that if I'd not met you and come to like you, I'm not sure what I'd think of you based just on this forum, and the same can be said for several others. I'm also absolutely certain that people would say the same of me! Sometimes though I see where the "baddie" posters are coming from on here. I am also just having a really anti everything time at the moment, so please ignore everything I've written / write recently, and I'm sure I'll be sweet, fair Keef again in no time. Bless you Sean for always having to stand up and and be counted :)