Keef

Mate I saw this thing happening to a friend of mine (the falling, laughing and crying), and knew her to be a sane and intellegent person. Like I say, I'm not saying it was or wasn't some higher power, but something was going on... I found it rather scary, but interesting. Reminds me of Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm by The Crash Test Dummies (a Canadian band) "Then there was this boy whose Parents made him come directly home right after school And when they went to their church They shook and lurched all over the church floor He couldn't quite explain it They'd always just gone there I love that scene in Life of Brian!

Toronto Blessing

I'm sure it was Winds of Toronto, because it fist happened in Canada, but can't find anything about it on google.

Isn't science about discovery and disproving theories? In which case, scientists are trying to disprove things that were previously thought of as certainties... Rather than just assuming it's all mumbo jumbo (love that phrase), why don't they investigate it more closely, and see if there is something in it. I once went to a church service where they were "touched" by the "winds of Totonto" (or something like that). They believed that the Holy Spirit had touched them, and people would stand either side of another person and trey for them, resulting in the person falling to the ground, laughing or crying hysterically.... All rather odd, but quite an experience (NOTE, I ONLY WENT AS AN INTERESTED OBSEVER AND WENT OUT FOR A FAG WHEN THEY STARTED OFFERING TO PREY FOR ME). Anyway, I remember a girl standing up and telling her story; she had suffered from severe severe asthma, and couldn't walk 10 yards without struggling for breath. However, after she'd been "touched", she was cured, her inhalers were thrown away and she'd run a marathon. Now I'm not saying I believe she was touched by the Holy Spirit (I'm not saying she wasn't either), but the fact is, her asthma had gone... How??? Maybe some things just can't be explained, but I'm pretty sure Dawkin would struggle to explain it too... :-S

lozzyloz Wrote: -------------------------------------------------- Can he promote DHFC to the Premiership? Not even God could do that I'm afraid...

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > is there anything other than "shockingly stupid > "psychics""? ;-) Unfortunately yes, which is how they con so much money out of people! I have no problem whatsoever with alternative therapies, but people talking to the dead for you.... I can't prove it's bo!!ocks, but I just can't believe it.

Scouse saying "s/he had a face like a robber's dog".

shaman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Has the village shaman I could arrange his rituals > and feasts understand he is of good blood line, > hey cousin oops! Indeed cousin. I had been keeping that quiet since you told me, as thought you might want to remain anon... Don't worry, I shall keep your identity to myself ;-)

I like "Is Right!" in a scouse accent. Also, "Jobsagoodun", and love the word "Fugly" (tu)

I'm not sure I want to be a God, I'd rather just enjoy the beer and Man U's relegation! That said, having several arms for glass carrying would be nice :)-D

Quite right if you're playing the blue scum! I too missed all the footy through a drunken haze, but did see a replay of the Fulham goal against Arsenal... Absolute gold! ;-)

Watched most of the programme, and though it was crap. He picked on shockingly stupid "psychics". Now I can't help thinking he does that, so everyone thinks yeah he's right, they're all frauds. Then when he starts picking on the more honest alternative therapists, he already has a load of people believing that he's exposing frauds, and so has already won half the battle before he's started. I think he's a tw@t.

I remember a school mate saying "Oh my days" to a teacher when told off... The teacher replied "Your days are numbered boy!". I laughed >:D

I want to live in St Kilda, Melbourne when I'm 70.... In fact, I'd like to live there now, but it's not looking too likely at the moment :(

What are you drinking? Is my fave when it's said to me. Sean I sed to have a mate at uni who said that to people... You Irish are an odd bunch ;-)

Indeed welcome! I remember saying something to you, but have absolutely no idea what! Anyway, see you at the next one...

I guess shiatsu would count as an alternative therapy, and I'm all for that. Used to share a house with a girl who practiced it, and I was her very willing test subject! Never felt so relaxed! Couldn't afford to pay for it though damn it!

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pickled onion = the opposite of that ! As a proper crisp yes, but Monster Munch.... Come on!

Vietnamese cafe... Cool :)-D

I was interested in this programme, but have been slightly put off by the really patronising way that he's talked to people in the trailers I've seen. He's known for that, and I hate it. Just because you're a bit of a scientist, doesn't give you the right to laugh at and dismiss the beliefs of others... Once upon a time, the leading scientists thought the earth was flat! I'm not for or against alternative therapies myself, but I hate people dismissing things.

Oh, and I do my drinking in ED, thus contributing heavily to the local economy!!! :)-D

No, I'm from ED, and I'm sticking to that ;-)

Yeah I'm not doing too well, and in the other one I play I'm bottom with -1... The Only Way is Up! Baby!!!!

Oops, sounds like we went to the wrong table :-S

They're happy enough for you to eat at the tables out front if it's warm... I suspect it'll be rather busy though, so try and get there sharpish if you want a seat!