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"Yes she's made quite a bit of money...but what [are any of them] successful for?" Thank you Izodia, good point. Apart from REbecca Loos obviously who [edited for reasons of taste]

YESSSSS GODDAMMIT

*polishes flintlocks*

She won a competition because she can indeed sing a little bit. There endeth the contribution. They don't write the songs, they're not behind their marketing, and the ones really laughing are of course the record execs behind them. They look pretty on a video and sometimes tour/tour the publicity circuit. I'm sure it is really hard work, but then who out there doesn't work hard (apart from me today). As for the role model, you can't have your cake and eat it. You can't be iconic and NOT a role model. On the one hand decrying press intrusion on your privacy to behave badly and the awful burden of being a role model; on the other bleating on about every celebrity cause de jour and wandering off to Darfuristan with the UN to highlight some plight or other.

Ooh and while I'm ranting .... ALEX EFFING JAMES!!!!!! Yeah, he did learn an instrument and write tunes, and did well out of it, well done. But does he have to appear on even more programmes than JSP? Writes a column for every publication in this country, be a celeb panelist as well as reality tv entrant, UN AMBASSADOR?!?!? I mean Question Time, seriously how is some floppy hair and the odd snort of derision actually going to grant me any extra insight into today's politics. I don't suppose I can lay the blame of Auntie Beeb's dumbing down entirely at his door, let's just call him the poster child for that generation. *c-c-c-c-c-c-cc--allllllllmmm d-d-d-d-d-oooooowwwwnn*

If you build it they will come. The ones I really hate are those that keep buying OK, Hello and gawd knows what else, TV Quick? It has once appeared in my house, I ritually burned it!

"To be fair to Kate Moss (and I am no fan) she is pretty much A List" I know what you're saying but I'm totally with DaveR on this. Celebrity for its own sake is ultimately worthless. She wears clothes, has her photo taken and encourages girls to snort coke in order to be borderline anorexic, well worth every penny of her millions, well done girl. It does all devalue genuine achievement. Katie Price is my nomination. I guess a minor tip of the hat for having survived and capitalised on on her start in a pretty ugly industry, but to constantly describe herself as an authoress and business woman? Pah.

Liking this, a sort of Snopes for Historians http://bshistorian.wordpress.com/ Used this morning to debunk the hundred years war - two-fingered salute link, long bows were big and would have taken 3 fingers. The sharper eyed among you may spot what prompted me to think of my childhood crush, Chloe Ashcroft.

Chloe Ashcroft from Playschool was something of an early crush too And what ever happened to Brian Cant? A friend of mine regularly ends up in the minicab of Geoffrey from Rainbow down South West London way.

Like that needed saying Keef, we've ALL got a crush on Moos!!

Top o' the birthday mornin' to you Paulie!

That's quite alright Ingenuity, I totally understand someone not liking the film, I was just saying that's on its own merits it's not a bad film as such. I forced myself to watch about 10 minutes of Battlefield Earth on tv the other night, just to remind myself what truly eyewateringly awful film making is about. Moments like that make you a little less harsh on a merely OK title.

"utter bag of toss" Hardly, it's well made, well acted, the 80s feel is good, there are some good comedy moments and my health worker step ma felt it was pretty straight in its dealings with schizophrenia. All dressing on a pretty good if standard fare coming-of-age movie. Yeah the hype and cult status thanks to a couple of renta-twists, got out of proportion with the actual quality of the film, it's a good but it's not a great film by any stretch, but bag of toss? I don't think so. EDIT: Ooh, been a awhile!

It's worth a watch, it's one of those you go "Wow" after the first watch, especially if you've heard nothing, but doesn't stand up quite so well to subsequent viewings. Well worth it for Patrick Swayze's creepy turn against type, very good.

I was under the impression this was for discussing those whom people might not expect were the obvious objects of attraction, rather than a public declaration of intended sexual conquest; well except in the case of teabagging the teapot obviously.

"from wanting to stick your knob in a teapot." Is that the definition of teabagging, I had wondered.

I was thinking of Su Ingle of Wildtrack fame but accidentally typed Sue Perkins when name spell checking. Seems she's an East Dulite, plus there was something about her on maestro, anyone who can connect that well with the music is by definition sexy, much better than Jane Asher's weird marshall flailing and Katie Derham's simpering wiggles. So though I was going to nominate Ingle I'll happily settle for Perkins.

I had to wait about 3 months for mine, but the initial rush has passed I thinks o you should be ok.

Prior to the wedding I was Wii Fitting pretty regularly and could really feel the difference. It basically amounts to a mild work out in your front room. Since coming back to this damp depressing country and a soul-crushing career, I've taken to coming home, cracking open a beer and sitting on the sofa. So yes, it can help, but it does involve actually doing the exercise, I'll get back on it I'm sure.

I'm very very easily pleased HB, just a simple soul you see. Ooh look, a custard pie, he he.

It's [hynes as Velma] a brief visual joke, but yep.

I dunno, have you been to the Sistine Chapel. I mean technically yes it's good, but seriously, could you actually live with that...eek. If the pope had only had Linda Barker round with a pot of Magnolia paint and some nice net curtains he's have probably lounged about in that hall drinking the blood of the children he murdered a bit more often.

I'm asleep dreaming obviously, wasn't that the setup?

fantastic, if the foursome involves those three and Nicola Stapleton, then sounds marvellous

Here you go, found this rather odd one for you