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I;ve been following this - I'm so glad you were so persistent and I am sure that you experience and bravery in posting here will help many other women in a similar position. Sometimes the medical profession can be wonderful, sometimes not. I hope you start to feel much better soon xxx susypx

i started a post about this subject back in october and was stressing about my daughter aged 4 not being dry at night. We did try it but she continuously wet the bed to such an extent i gave up after about 4 days. She is still in night nappies at 4.5 years. So no advice but 2 isn't that old to be in them I suppose. The other night she took her nappy off in the middle of the night as it was uncomfortable. So i have now put a bed mat under her sheet and left to her - she can take it off if she wants and feels able to. Giving it until the summer holidays when she will be 5 and we will definitely go cold turkey! susypx

thanks brilliant advice here. mirena coil not an option either sadly. But I also have awful pmt for 2 weeks often which definitely is helped by exercise, so my mission for this month is - LOTS OF EXERCISE. also have started taking magnesium pills which are meant to help - and am going to take iron during my period as I wonder if part of the reason i generally feel so terrible is iron defiency due to heavy period. As for pain - have downloaded one of those aps so shall start building up the painkillers when period is due - hoping exercise will help to (preemptive) as i was doing lots in summer and pain wasn't really a huge problem - it's come on more in the winter since I have been much more lazy, so we shall see. really really appreciate all the advice xxx

Mine dropped her nap at 2 - because it was just getting impossible to get her to take it. She definitely still needed it as would be begging for bed at 430pm but I wouldn;t let her go to bed until about 6pm. She soon got used to it and it was definitely one the highlights of those two years - no routine, not trying to get her to sleep for hours at lunchtime and again in the evening - she was so exhausted in the evening that she went down no problem - and a proper evening's rest for me. It did mean we couldn't go out after about 2pm for a while as she would fall asleep in pushchair or car seat and then be impossible to get back to sleep in the evneing but I don't remember that lasting too long. I loved having my evenings back - and she was in bed by 630 until quite recently (she is now 4pm). lovely! susypx

yes, i must start keeping a diary, not least so I know I am being pmtish and therefore possibly unreasonable (not that I would ever admit that to my husband!). I am a bit random with the painkillers as I tend not to take them until the pain is very bad so I think I need to build them up as suggested. I also what I thought was a very strange labour - I went almost straight into multiple contractions, I never had any break between them at all. Thought I would cope because of breaks between contractions but I never got any! Ended up with csection anyway. This thread has been brilliant for me thank you all so much. Susypx

Ah ok! I can't go on pill as recently had breast cancer, for same reason not desperate to have any more surgery. During my treatment I had a drug to put me into menopause but still got very light periods which they were surprised by. i ll get anreferal to gynae Anyway to discuss it. Oh bodies are quite annoying ! Thanks for sharing that, much appreciated Susyp x

Thank you all wow I am so glad I posted! I did read about endometriosis but since I have had a baby , and got pregnant easily thankfully, it seems unlikely. I ve had two pregnancies first one ended in miscarriage and I was given over counter painkillers for the pain of that and really it was fine, nothing like this last period pain so I figure my pain threshold can't be low. I can't really face any invasive testing either but will def read up in it, nausea thing is interesting as since coming off pill I have occasionally felt nauseous right before my period . Gee my stuff is nothing really comparmed to you guys. It's really helpful reading all this thank you so Much will read carefully and digest and look into all the ideas and tips Susypx

I have really bad period pains occasionally - when i was 19 i had an episode where basically i was screaming in pain, throwing up, and eventually blacked out so i was taken to hospital - bit of gas and air and I was fine (cue lots of housemates hilarious jokes over how i would cope with labour...). Went on pill. Now that is not an option for me - i am slightly better with pain now in that i don't get hysterical - but it can be bad. Nurofen + doesn't cut the mustard - now am taking mefenamic acid on the advice of forum which also is not really helping. Generally I just use a hot water bottle (it seems to come on worse at night) but the other night I had chronic pain , which was managed with a hot water bottle - but it was even worse in my back and the only way to cope was for my husband to rub my back quite hard and me go on knees with hot water bottle against my stomach. I threw up quite a lot too. My husband wanted to take me to hospital whereas I knew it was just period pain so was (angrily!!) resisting. It passed in a couple of hours into something more manageable. Is it possible for me to get stronger pain killers from the doctor? Any advice from fellow sufferers? I'm going to try an up my exercise (from 0% recently due to colds) as that definitely helps with the chronic pmt I get so probably would help with pain also? It's not a big deal in the scheme of things of course - just interested if there is anything out there I can ask for. susypx

Yes I take your point- my daughter will tend to want to play with anyone and I suppose a few bad experiences will teach her to be a bit more selective. Ie she will often drop longstanding friends if someone new and interesting comes along and I find it difficult to teach her not to do that! Think if it comes up again will suggest we either do it at our house or at a playground/play place where it's a bit more neutral. Quite difficult to say no as my daughter is now saying she wants to do it so I guess we need to wait until we get to the point where she will say no! The playdates we do have are with friends out of school, or friends who have continued on with her from nursery, and it is always very easy and no problems. We haven\t really had any with "new " friend since starting reception apart from this one so I suppose we do need to venture into uncharted waters !! thanks for all the advice, i'm still going to speed off from school , can't stand being obliged to walk home with someone! arg Susypx

I don't have a particular problem with the other mum other than the slight obsession with joining us to walk home- but that could just be friendliness and I could just be a grump. It was just seeing my daughter just so upset that got to me. But it was a couple of months back. I could just be completely over thinking this as per usual. I just asked my daughter about it and she was all up for it but was keener to have the girl here so that she could "be the bossy one and tell her what to do and what to play with" which I suppose says it all. So if it comes up again may try that (not the being bossy bit, I did explain that that is not ok!). I worry about playdates as she is an only and so I know she has to have them , and I think she is far more sociable than me so I am not sure I am doing her justice in organisng them (ie having very few!). Do you think children should be having weekly playdates in Reception - how often, how many??? susypx

my daughter's teacher said she just plays with everyone depending on what they are doing and so sometimes she probably does play with this girl . but i think that is different to an enforced playdate. thanks for the thoughts , I shall steel myself to be honest susypx

my daughter tends to say yes when anyone asks her to go on a playdate - then later on will express her concerns to me! I may try that - then the mum no doubt will ask my daughter who will say yes! but yes, i agree that being honest is probably going to be simpler in the long run. I suppose this happens a lot in school. Now that I am working again I am much less bothered about other mums at the school gate which is a big relief! i'll chat to my daughter tonight to check out how she feels about it. susypx

I am thinking of just saying I think they are very different and not really friends. I pick her up two days a week and I find it quite oppressive having to walk home all the time together - there have been days when they have literally chased after us to catch up. they came to a playdate at ours and it was fine, they stayed downstairs the whole time with us. But I don't really want to encourage it anymore. The other mum thinks that her daughter's friends mistreat her (in a similar way to what I am saying!). I used to help in the library for her class and a quieter two girls I have never seen. But who knows what goes on in groups of girls so she could be right. But I am not sure that manipulating new friends for your child ever really works susypx

thanks saffron that's reassured me no end. I am not bothered if they fall out early - just don't want forcible extraction because of nerve damage. I'll see if the dentist can check that. I think it's fine just an annoyance for her but may try mixing the toothpaste, she would probably accept that. susypx

Meaning this a slightly light hearted thread really about how to avoid playdates with children your child doesn't really like ! just have to give a bit of background first apologise as a bit lengthy. at christmas my daughter (4) went on a playdate with a girl whose mum had asked quite a few times and who always walks home with us. said girl was horrendous to my daughter, who is quite able normally to stand up for herself - but she was reduced to absolute sobbing tears on about 4 or 5 occasions. Then we had dinner, and it was a little better , then we went home soon after. Was so awful seeing my daughter so out of sorts, she's never been anything like that on other playdates, even when they have argued, and actually rarely gets that upset generally. The other mum's conclusion that it was because my daughter was hungry. It may have been a contributing factor but having overheard a couple of "discussions" between the two girls and from what my daughter said afterwards I felt much more strongly it was because the other girl was basically bossing my daughter about and putting her down and basically ordering her to do things (she is 10 months older). fine, so we move on, i tried not to walk home every day with them by basically speeding my daughter off from school. Now I am back at work and my husband is doing the pick ups and they've attached themselves to him - he texted me last week to say he had arranged for my daughter to go on a playdate on her own to said girl's house. I vetoed that idea - so we came up with lame excuse to avoid it. But she keeps asking him. I keep replying to her by text saying no. the problem is that this mother doesn't like her own daughter's friends and so is trying to manipulate new friendships. My daughter never plays with her at school. anyone got any good excuses to get out of playdates? As I am running out of them. I also don't want to walk home with them every day for the next 6 years it is driving me a bit demented. Obviously fine if you end up leaving at same time but they wait for us or expect us to wait for them. And the girls are NOT FRIENDS. What took the biscuit this week was that my daughter has a little boy friend who adores her, she adores him, the teachers always comment on how cute it was. Said mum invited HIM on a playdate and is trying to make them a little threesome. Said girl said to boy yesterday - you like me better than xxx don;t you. He said no, I like her (my daughter) better. ARG Sorry, quiet day at home for me today! Any ideas on how to handle this aside just running away every day when we leave school.... susypx

yes she does have a cold at the moment. I'll keep an eye on whether it does come up more when she has a cold. I hadn't thought about the enamel I was just worried about nerve damage. Not sure she would accept a different toothpaste but it's definitely worth a think about. thank you susypx

thank you, yes , I really don't want to do anything unless we really have to!! how to create a dentist phobia....! susypx

so it won't matter to keep them in either - as they are not bothering her that much so would rather keep them in! susypx

my daughter fell quite badly onto her front teeth about a year ago and chipped one of them. The dentist said it was fine, but it might go grey. Both teeth still look fine but she sometimes complains of a discomfort and just said to me that she wished her hurting teeth would fall out. She;s 4 so it's a while before they will. She eats fine, even apples, although I haven't noticed if she is using her front teeth. We are seeing dentist next week but I am still worrying - does this mean they would need to be taken out - could it have caused damage to the permament teeth? I don't think the discomfort is too bad, but I am worried about what it means. Has anyone had this experience? thank you Susypx

It's like with my wailing daughter when a baby , who had chronic reflux - got stopped on countless occasions by old ladies (when I was trying to get home as yet another trip out aborted) saying - "is she hungry love?". ARRGGGGHHHHH susypx

recently when my 4 year old has been shouting at me and having tantrums I've copied her - that has made her laugh and defused the situation - she finds it quite shocking as well i think. Obviously not something I would be able to do on the school run! susypx

my daughter at preschool never bit out of anger, it was always random - like sitting the carpet, or when playing nicely next to someone just leaning over and biting not after an argument or anything. that's why i thought it was hunger. so don' always assume it's because they are angry or frustrated - it is the most likely cause at a younger age but if it is not then explaining why it's wrong just doesn't really work - whereas a shock wake up call like being taken completely out of the sitaution can. But ultimatly , i think it's something they grow out of. susypx

just to say i have sympathy as my one was a biter for a while including in initial days of preschool! In the latter situation it was definitely because she was hungry. We got a book called "doodle bites" by polly dunbar which did get the message across a bit. i have no idea how nurseries work really but just to add that it only stopped - when , aged 3 and a bit she did it a friend's bbq to a girl we didn't know (again was hungry i think!!) , and after being called into the preschool on a weekly basis about it - I was so angry with her I actually couldn't even trust myself to communicate with her - i took her home, away from all her friends having fun, and put her to bed at 5pm in the afternoon with no conversation, no telling off, just absolute silence apart from the process of going to bed. Never happened again. So the isolation may work. There is a boy in her reception class now who hits and I can understand how parents feel when it happens to their little ones , especialy if they are leaving them for a whole day in nursery. But I know what it's like to be unable to correct a behaviour despite doing everything you are meant too!

finger nails i did when she was asleep. Then when older I promised to paint them if she let me cut them. More tricky now she is at school but for some reason she is obsessed that her daddy has to cut them not me - despite the fact he can't see a thing without his reading glasses on - and those are normally lost. Her decision! No chance on getting a toddler to sit in the bath!! also to echo re teeth that luckily (!) my dad has some teeth that are quite black (how?!) which my daughter has noticed so i tell her her teeth will go black too if she doesn't clean them. I used to tell her she would end up like a witch with teeth fallen out but now that she is almost at losing milk teeth i've dropped that one.. susypx