Marmora Man

Nero Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's alright. Don't worry. It's not so bad. > There are even journalists and solicitors on this > site. Nero And politicians

We're off to Covent Garden this afternoon. Food fair (lots of samples), fantastic Christmas Lights and, if you're prepared to queue ice skating at Somerset House afterwards.

I bought my wife a vacuum cleaner last year but I?ve a better idea this year. I?m buying the new Apple microchip - you implant into a women?s breast ? they call it the Itit. For years women have complained men only ever look at their breasts but never listen to them. Now ???????

Went to all gay pantomime last night. It was a charity do in aid of the Schizophrenia Society. It was all going really well until Cinderella said ?he?s behind you? ?

Burn me and scatter the ashes at sea

It's always worth remembering that eventually babies grow up and become 18 - old enough to buy you a drink - tho' they'll probably cadge the money for it from you!

IMO the best burger anywhere in London is that provided at Joe Allen's - been going there for close on 30 years and, while they seem slightly smaller than I remember they still hit the spot. They can be ordered as rare as you like. Start with a dry martini at the bar and follow with a rare burger, small ceasar salad, salted chips (with skin on) and a beer. Excellent evening with change from ?35 for two - plus EDF "ers" that like to celeb spot can be in 7th heaven if eating after 10.30pm.

I would question the whole premise of a hospital on the site. It is possible to walk from East Dulwich Hospital to Kings in 20 m ins, drive there in 5 - 8 mins, travel by public transport in 20 - 30 mins. When I lived in Devon and N. Cornwall having a hospital within 90 drive time was considered pretty good going. If the East Dulwich Hospital is to become a step down / rehab facility to enable bed blockers to be moved out of the main acute hospital - then I'm for it. If it is to be a minin acute hospital with full diagnostic facilities I would not. It makes more sense to concentrate high cost services (Imaging and path in particular) on one site in an area rather than many sites.

Saw the story this morning - I thought it came over as balanced and positive. Certainly not prurient or damaging to you CWLD, would expect it to win you votes, not lose them. Everyone has a history - no on should be shackled by their history. If I was resident in your constituency you'd get my vote.

rifleman harris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Had 2 pints of dutch or belgian lager in the > Summer and paid ?10 for the privilage. ?5 per > pint???? shurely shome mishtake! Drink English beer in an English pub and it'll be cheaper. I like the menu - but would like to see some easier / cheape snacks. If they would sell the East Dulwich Deli sausage roll that would be perfect with a pint of Youngs / Adnams / Greene King.

Until I read the thread I thought this play would be about life in a black tubular underwater vessel - which I might have attended. Oh well - back to waiting for the Navy LArk to be repeated on Radio 4.

CWLD - Follow Lord Wellington's example and tell the press to "publish and be damned". Alternatively - choose a good day to bury bad news - such as any day when Gordon Brown has to defend his government - pretty much any day this week, next week and on into the future.

Christopher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's a good price for decent wild oysters... is > the stall licensed? Be nice if they had champagne > / guiness / Txakoli..? I asked that question - stallholder hopes to be licensed in due course and agreed Guinness was a the perfect accompaniment to oysters. Cheese shop - stallholder very enthusiastic, but limited stock of 3 welsh and one stilton doesn't begin to compete with the Cheese Block, but full marks for the quality. Thought the book shops was a bit limited - overruns for sale but nothing very exciting. WArehouse has potential tho' - to be supported and watched.

East Dulwich Angst Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm pretty sure that faux is the French word for > fake!! No - it must be an animlmer al - it has paws. surely you've heard of Faux Pas?

TillieTrotter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Try dragging your moaning sons down to the lane > and walking back with bags full of shopping. You > do sometimes seem to forget that other people's > lives arent arranged the same as yours Mr M. Tillie - not sure how old your sons are but my teenage sons accompany me (sometimes - more so when a mini monty at Blue Mountain comes into the equation) when I go shopping by bike. A pleasant 10 min ride and I can pack ost of a week's food shopping into two saddlebags and rucsac. I admit for "big" shopping it's JS Sainsbury once a month using the car - it's quick, efficient and shopping for toilet rolls, washing up liquid and cereals isn't fun shopping. Food shopping by bike on LL is fun shopping.

Green isn'y my party - but we should back candidates not parties anyway. Cahv'd get my vote for the fun she'd bring to the party.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nero > > Good point and is the type of debate that it > should be possible to have without left v right > throwing sticks at each other > > That said (!) when you say there are too many, wat > definition are you using. Is it cost to the nation > (it's not that much - around 3% of GDP) or is it > "for their own good"? > > Also, the Wisconsin program isn't a total sucess > either is it? There are some very real, and > sometimes inhuman, aspects to the whole thing. For > example is it REALLY better for a single mother to > spend 4 hours a day on rubbish public transport to > and from work for the minimum wage just to keep > her off welfare? Sean, It may only cost 3% of GDP but it involves up to 5,000,000 people (unemployment, disability, NEETS etc - can't substantiate figure immediately but am fairly confident of scale) - that's probably > 15% of the potential working population. It's the impact of not being a contributor to the economic health of the nation that is damaging. Stories of third / fourth generation welfare dependent families are depressing - while the Wisconsin experiment may be harsh it has had the effect of dragging several hundred thousand out of welfare dependency. In addition in UK, jobs that some of those relying on welfare might take up are being taken up by immigrants - not of itself necessarily a bad thing but it is making for an unhealthy growth in the UK population that, if it were to continue at present rates, is unsustainable. If 50% of those on benefits were to take up employment it might reduce net immigration by 2.5m over next 5 years and hence strain on public services such as health, education etc - surely a double benefit?

ChavWivaLawDegree Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was talking about this > > "What was very marked was the number of medals > worn by people much younger than I am. It was a > measure of the numer of wars and conflicts that > our servicemen and women have been involved in > over the last 15 years - and in contrast to > similar parades in the 70's and 80's when only > retired WWI, WWII & Korean War vererans had > medals." > > and wondered if he thought it was a good thing to > see more young war veterans? CWLD - I retired from the Royal Navy in '92. I took part in the "Cold War". I worry that so many younger people are earning medals - it is not good. We have had two world wars in the last century, both (and certainly WWII) arguably fought on behalf of right. From Korea to the Falklands there was, broadly, a peace of a kind. Since 1997 there have been too many wars fought for uncertain aims, with a lack of forethought and certainly a complete lack of proper funding & equipment - all resulting in too many unnnecessary deaths. I am far less certain about the recent wars that this government has committed troops to. I also agree entirely we should be supporting our service people properly when they return to UK. See an earlier thread Honour the Covenant

luddite Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hello > hey im sorry if i appear uninformed or self > indulgent i hope im neither ......i just didnt > express my self very well? but thanks mockney > piers for the mc crae poem > and i any one is interested 'the regeneration > trilogy 'by Pat Barker is a truly astounding work > . i wish id never mentioned white poppies ! > at least it started some debate > ps im wearing white and red poppies on my coat . > and i am againt war nd iling straners as a way o > resolving conflict Anything that keeps this debate in people's minds is a good thing. I attended a REmembrance Day Parade today - over 1000 people, many serving and retired personnel. What was very marked was the number of medals worn by people much younger than I am. It was a measure of the numer of wars and conflicts that our servicemen and women have been involved in over the last 15 years - and in contrast to similar parades in the 70's and 80's when only retired WWI, WWII & Korean War vererans had medals.

Me too - I've been wondering. It looks like an infill of some kind with maybe a garage underneath and perhaps a small falt above, hence no apparent windows at ground level?

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mike > > I don't think that's true - AB1 wouldn't choose > that location as they insist on footfall > > The Woolwich looks to be the likeliest spot Too small - ABO insist on barns.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anybody find the white poppy thing > annoying/offensive? Not so much annoying as uninformed. I believe the traditional red poppy fulfills both stated aims - remembrance and a desire to avoid future conflict. Certainly never, never to celebrate or applaud war. I've not yet met a soldier / sailor or airman that looks back on their war as something to be recommended. They may have pride in what they achieved, sadness for friends lost and wounded, nightmares about waht they saw / did - but never something they would want their sons, daughters, friends or others involved in again. Neverthless in the best traditions of liberty - I applaud anyone's right to say what they wish - even if I don't agree with it.

My pitch tonight was just outside Somerfields - catching commuters as they popped in for late night shopping. Will bring the box along to EDF drinks on FRiday. Will be in LL Saturday am - probably around the Palmerston corner I think.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wot's a mancunian? Someone that lives north of the river.

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mamafeelgood Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > i am starting to feel like i live in a > > neighbourhood full of mary whitehouse types > that > > read the daily mail: intolerant and unable to > find > > the off button. > > > > theres no need for blasphemy. But there is a need for some tolerance and balance. Loosen up! Shops provide a service for which they get paid. They pay their staff who buy things from other shops. It's called life and we're all in it - we all work, earn, buy and in turn consume goods provided by others. Some choose to shop at Harrods, others at Lidl - each according to their choice and purse. Criticise quality of goods / services by all means - but not the shop itself or the owner. If it's the wrong thing in the wrong place it will fail. If it serves a need and the price is right it will succceed. The great thing about a market economy and choice is that no one is forced to shop where they don't want to. LL is a vibrant market economy - if you're right and JoJO Mamam Bebe is awful it'll go under, if you're wrong it will still be around in five years time.