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OK, so these people want the end of Page 3. Today in the Gruin, they report that some feminist is starting a campaign for more women on bank notes. I think I have an idea that should keep both groups happy...

DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Either way human with car , human without a car , which is more dangerous ? If the one without the car is drunk and armed and the one with the car is parked. Which is more dangerous?

DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's pathetic defending cars Well it's fairly clear a reasoned debate isn't really going to happen here, is it?

DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No need For that post DJKQ. Driver drove too fast as mother and child crossed the road , there was > others crossing too so the child was holding the mother's hand but was behind her as there wasn't > enough room to walk side by side . The lady driver in her BMW hit the girl hard enough to make her > fall to the floor, if she had drove at a sensible speed that wouldn't have happened , thank God it > wasn't more serious . Police and ambulance were called to the scene of accident . What do you consider 'too fast'. Surely if the car was travelling at a stupid speed then the child would be rather seriously injured.

I had an Ixus 700 with this - including the 'Lens Error'. I tried everything but nothing worked. It is a common issue that, unless you are in guarantee, the manufacturer won't touch you. You might be lucky with the internet tips, but I think it is new camera time.

Heathrow is bursting to capacity - and, given its location, the wrong place to expand. If London wants to remain world class, expansion somewhere is necessary. But Heathrow is the wrong place.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shocking enough, but for a woman to call for that? Errm... whaaat?

I really couldn't feel at all less strongly about this. There are far worse things to be found in the pages of the Sun than a pair of breasts.

"Angry people in local newspapers". Fantastic. http://apiln.blogspot.com/

True, Silverfox, but the parents round here are a right bunch of lushes...

Not in Hatton Gardens, but we used Harriet Kelsall. Really, really pleased. They have a heap of one-off rings, or will design something for you. http://www.hkjewellery.co.uk/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/03/no-longer-tutor-progeny-rich-aspirational As someone in the comments pointed out, this is like a Daily Mash pastiche of a Guardian article. Only it's real. Still, top marks for this person only taking 10 years to work out that they really, really hate rich people so much they can no longer bear to accept their money. Most telling line: "Yet in a society plagued by the disease of aspiration...". As Catherine Tate put it, how *very* dare they. Funniest line: "an already unequal form of education plunges into something that would make the feudal system look like the dictatorship of the proletariat." Monty Python couldn't have put it better. Anyway, a tour-de-force of left-wing stupidity.

stacey-lyn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > UKIP's results are in part a knee jerk reaction by the disenfranchised voter and those that feel > alienated by Cameron and his old Etonian advisors. I suspect you aren't a Tory voter, SL. Tories would hardly baulk at the party being run by old Etonians / public school types. That sort of comment is straight out of the Guardian Comment is Free section as written by all the dyed-in-the-wool Labourites on there. Bit like their 'I'll never vote LibDem again' - like they ever had. However, I think you are sort of right about the 'disenfranchised voter' (another Guardian phrase?). I assume you mean people that no longer feel the big two/three offer them anything (as opposed to being prevented from voting). Part of this is due to the coming together of the three parties to try to occupy the centre right economically and centre left socially ground. Miliband's cautious approach to announcing anything in the way of policies has fed this (leading to most people assuming - probably correctly - that a Labour government would offer much the same as we are getting now) and the LibDems now being mainstream and no longer attracting the protest vote. Since Thatcher left office, Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron have all pretty much followed her lead. There is good reason for this: the vast majority of UK people want it. People aren't voting UKIP because it offers them what they want. In fact, I suspect most of the people who voted UKIP have actually no idea what their policies are. Nope, they voted UKIP because they are feeling the pinch and aren't happy. Labour aren't offering anything to them and the Tories and the LibDems are the incumbents. So, this was the best way of showing it. This is not unusual for local elections (and Euro elections). Come the general election, it will be a vastly different matter. We just have to hope in the meantime that the big three don't pander too much to what is, in fact, a bit of an apparition. There is no actual substance to this protest in that it comes from a certain political viewpoint. It's really just a general protest. That is, barring a fairly long held misapprehension that immigration is the cause of everyone's problems. The only way out of that one is to withdraw from Europe which would be an absolute disaster for the UK economy. It's kind of unbelievable the Tories would go for this, being, at its heart, the party of business. But they could be the danger here. I can't see Labour or the LibDems making much of a change. Though, with the unions on Miliband's back (since they got him elected) you just never know.

I thought that the title might have been a warning that Harriet Harman was popping around for the election...

Well. you did seem to dismiss all UKIP voters as 'deranged sociopaths'. Seems a teeny bit prejudiced...

Hang on DC - this is the revisionist thread, not the cloud cuckoo land thread...

Left and right these days is so blurred. It'd be interesting to see who is voting UKIP. In the past, the LibDems have always gained a lot of the protest vote, though latterly the Greens and the BNP taking quite a bit. My guess is that the LibDem slump has gone mainly to Labour and UKIP has picked up a lot of the protest vote, together with disenchanted Labour and Tories in roughly equal numbers - for Tories, the more right wing side of the party and for Labour the traditional working class would be the most likely. Most of the vote will migrate back to the big two come the general election, but there will be a lot of hard thinking going on today in both party HQs. UKIP gained just under a quarter of the vote and that cannot just be ignored.

WI embarrassed by dressing as pirates for talk by former Somali pirate hostage. Truly brilliant. http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/Parkham-WI-embarrassed-dressing-pirates-talk/story-18871181-detail/story.html#axzz2S9UgsPZ9 I love how they take a 'if you want to join this band of insensitive nutters..." ad on the end of the piece.

woodrot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hess, Rudolph - he never actually killed anyone and was a smart dresser who influenced the seminal > 1970s Electro popsters Kraftwerk dress sense. and he was a skilled pilot. I thought it was Spandau Ballet that he influenced? In fact, didn't he play sax on Gold?

I'm loving how the previous sockpuppet has turned around and bit him.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RCH - thanks, you are a man of action. Slatternly whiners, take note! I've never actually met her, but I'm fairly sure Robin is more of a woman of action.

buddug Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > UncleBen wrote: 'JB- you did not raise it on EDF, > unlike when you raise certain planning apps etc > when suits you.' > > Hear hear. I see the James Barber Appreciation Society is convening for it's monthly meeting.

Twitter based ad campaign. I'm guessing something terribly outrageously artsy. Get someone to slap a littering fine on them, Robin.

Inthepink Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The cabinet were swayed by our arguments, and have agreed to look at these again > and come back to us in three months time. Sounds like 'kicked into the long grass', in business speak.

catfood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it is not illegal to 'weave' in and out of traffic, it's called filtering. True, but 'filtering' is just a name given to a certain form of overtaking. And, like all overtaking moves, if there is an accident you will usually (though not always) find the finger of blame pointed in your direction.