Loz

Green Goose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Commission, which is the Executive ie makes all the decisions ( headed by Junker) is unelected. Only if you consider the Prime Minister and the cabinet unelected. The commission is comprised of 1 person from each country, appointed by each elected national government. Since you have no idea how the EU works, GG, here's some unbiased reading for you... https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts-behind-claims-brussels-bureaucrats/ "The Commission is perhaps the most visible EU institution, but it is not necessarily the most powerful and is certainly not the government of Europe."

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DulwichFox Wrote: > > There is no one out there with any balls.. > Angela Eagle. The one that cried when she resigned?

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A few people have called me a AILS, not sure what > that stands for but its nice to be branded. Aldi, Iceland and Lidl Shopper?

We travelled in Vietnam for two months (June and July) back in 2013 and it was fine - lovely weather, in fact. We went onto Cambodia and Laos for Aug and early Sep and the rain really only came for the last few weeks. Thoroughly recommend Vietnam - truly lovely people (well, the ones that aren't trying to sell you something!) and the north around Sapa is some of the most beautiful country I've seen - and I've travelled to about 50 countries. And I recommend you jump over to Angkor Wat in Cambodia as well - fascinating place! Cuba is also amazing... and should be visited soon before the Americans spoil it.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...or, a tiny cake being stamped on by Rupert Murdoch. Ah, but the UG rules say you are not allowed to be concerned about how big the cake is.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I suspect Louisa may just be right. > > Farage Vs Johnson in 2020 leadership race... That's assuming Corbyn gets overthrown. Otherwise the Tories will walk 2020 and the incumbent won't be going anywhere.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All this proves is that everyone is concerned more > about how big the cake is- and not how it is shared out. If you have a 1kg cake and you get a 50g slice, are you better off than if you have a 10kg cake and get a 75g slice?

miga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Unelected - there are elections. And, of the rest, most are comprised by nominations from each sovereign government. The same sovereign governments so beloved by the Leavers. And the European Council is comprised of the 28 heads of government of the EU member states. Oh, and 'faceless bureaucrats'? The EU has about 55,000. The UK has about 440,000. It always amazes me how little about the EU the people 'against it' know.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No-one could have had any kind of concrete plan about what to do next because it is an unknown > quantity...there will be years of wrangling- It took Greenland 9 years to get agreement over > fishing rights after it became independent of Denmark and left the EU. Just goes to show what a > grasping, power crazy bunch of loonies we have hopefully left behind. Who? Boris and Gove? I wouldn't write them off just yet.

Lordship 516 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > > Lordship 516 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > I haven't used a spreadsheet since the 90s, very rarely get excited about economics & have access > > > to a SPARC T4 midrange computer [64 bit] linked to a SPARC M7 minicluster [256 bit] running > > > customized software. > > > > You bought servers with a 256 bit processors? > > That would be special. Like the only ones in the > > world... > > Not bought - that would be silly & a waste of good money - access, read the post. > Actual 64 bit per processor in a cluster that performs at 256 bits. Word sizes really don't work like that. And anyway, would be entirely unnecessary (and very wasteful) unless you are dealing with more than 16.8 million terabytes of RAM. > & yes it is special - even the highest performing PCs couldn't run data near fast > enough to produce output that is meaningful No, it's a pretty bog-standard, off-the-shelf piece of kit. Yes, it will be much faster than a PC, but most servers are. Reuters, for instance, would have kit that makes that look like a development rig. The software is probably more impressive than the hardware, but you have said little about that.

Lordship 516 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I haven't used a spreadsheet since the 90s, very rarely get excited about economics & have access > to a SPARC T4 midrange computer [64 bit] linked to a SPARC M7 minicluster [256 bit] running > customized software. You bought servers with a 256 bit processors? That would be special. Like the only ones in the world...

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > B) which leads neatly onto my second, much shorter point. The right wing of politics in this country > has always, always been much better organised. If it was the Tories Corbyn would've been gone > already and they would be coalescing under a new leader. But Labour has itself set up so that > infighting and disagreement is more public and affects the party more. Twas ever thus...the right > looks after itself much better, and the left look like they couldn't run a tea party. That's probably because the right essentially have the one primary ideology, with differing levels of belief. The left look more like a coalition of various ideologies - the urban middle-class lefty, the radical lefty, the old-school unionist. These should be different parties and, if we had PR, they probably would be. But they are forced to come together, which leads to power struggles like we see now.

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz He's offering them a chance to look again at what's important to them, I admire the fact, > regardless of how he's been treated he is prepared to work together with people who have been herded > into a backstabbing mentality. Considering it involves 80% of the PLP, he has little choice. If he tries to play hard ball, it will almost certainly end in a schism. And what is important to them is quite obvious - they want to be elected. Unless Corbyn can show he can win a general election, he's got nothing to offer them. They have already decided he is an electoral liability, so I'm not sure what he can say to convince them otherwise.

Who blinks first in this negotiation might give us an insight into Brexit negotiations. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/03/eu-swiss-single-market-access-no-free-movement-citizens

Not much detail, though. What is he proposing to them that will entice them back into the fold? Considering their problem seems to be his leadership, what can he offer them?

Now I like to give the Guardian a good kicking as much as the next person, but it most media outlets went with similar versions of this story. Even the Beeb. Corbyn was naive saying anything like that to a room containing many members of the Jewish media community. Of course they were going to take it badly.

Yes, but you will never see on your own posts.

You can't - only Admin can. Try hitting the 'report this post' button under the ones you don't want.

Very clever!

Green Goose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nothing much will change after Brexit. The stock market has recovered completely from the dip this > week and Sterling is coming back up nicely also. The FTSE100 has. The FTSE250 - which is a better reflection of UK companies - is still well down. The pound is still in the toilet - at a 30 year low against the USD. On what planet is it 'coming up nicely'??

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Petrol has been at an all time low at was bound > to of risen whatever the outcome of the > Referendum.. Petrol price has been low because the price of Brent Crude has been low. The price of Brent Crude has not markedly changed since Brexit. > It has only been 1 week and the Pound has > stregnthened a little. It fluctuates hourly.. It fluctuates hourly by fractions of a percent. It has dropped 10% due to Brexit. Prepare for the price of most imports to rise accordingly.

Townleygreen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here's Farron's on twitter: > > https://twitter.com/search?q=tim%20farron%20stop%20brexit&src=tyah Looks like an average of about 2 tweets a day. Wow...

bzgeo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What about people like me that suffer racism after > the result because they are from Europe? I think that is exactly what they are talking about.

They have a remain policy - they should be shouting this from the rooftops to get support from disaffected remainers. I've seen Clegg in the news more than Farron. They need a leader with some ooomph.

Gove knifed Boris because he didn't believe he would follow through with Brexit. Gove would need to be convinced that May would complete Brexit before he withdrew.