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That link to your website doesn't work ? I'll try copy and pasting. And the cream tea for one doesn't seem to be included on the menu that's on Instagram? Have I missed something somewhere? Apologies if so.

I don't think you need to "do" Instagram, you can just click on the link. ETA: I have been asked to remove the menus I posted from Instagram, as they only apply to Purley, not East Dulwich. My apologies for any confusion.

Pints are better value 🤣

I'm off North Cross Road, and they deliver there. Ocado do have good offers, and yes obviously they are great value if you can stock up on things which keep. After doing some calculations, I just couldn't make it financially viable, even with what seemed like a very good offer. I think there must have been a minimum spend, and I couldn't find enough I wanted to buy from Ocado to reach it, even though my Waitrose delivery is often pushing £100 when I'm stocking up on things. I'll try again at some point if they haven't given up on me. I used to spend ages comparing prices of things between the different supermarkets, until I belatedly realised that my time was worth more than the relatively miniscule amounts I was potentially saving 🤣

I understand that, but I can't really grasp how it works in practice, but never mind 😵‍💫

At least in that case pedestrians could (probably, mostly) still get safely across the road. Whereas in the case above, the driver had no way at all to turn right. Their only option other than waiting for the traffic to move would have been to drive on and hope to turn right at some point further on and then get back to Ondine Road that way. But they might not have been able to do that either.

Looks like it! Though according to the OP, they are "golden, hand-crimped parcels packed with flavour" 😀 I don't understand. Admittedly my brain is functioning at a very low level at the moment. Does that mean various local shops get together and agree to offer a discount to anyone who shows them a receipt from one of the other ones dated the same day? I can't see what's in it for either of them, unless people shop somewhere they wouldn't otherwise have done just to get the discount. Is it for vaguely linked things, say cheese from a cheese shop, wine from another shop? Showing my age there. And then suppose it's always the same shop which people go to second to get the discount? What's in it for the first shop? People go there in order to get the discount in the second shop?

Fair enough point, but does that not in a way make it even worse if they open a shop almost directly opposite another "family" business selling exactly the same type of products? Chango have nine other shops, according to their website, in places like Mayfair, Highgate and Richmond. I suppose East Dulwich should be honoured to be included 🙄 Presumably all chains, however large now, originally started off on a very small scale with just one or a few people. Like M&S and Sainsbury's , if memory serves.

I felt very sorry for a guy in a car trying to turn right into Ondine Road. Their way into the road was blocked by vehicles at a standstill which could not move backwards or forwards, including a bus, and nobody had apparently thought to keep the road entrance clear. They were being hooted at by all those rude drivers behind them who were being held up, the kind who seem to think that the more they hoot the more likely it is that the situation (which they couldn't see what it was, grammar) will somehow miraculously resolve itself. As soon as the line of traffic travelling towards Goose Green from the Denmark Hill direction was able to move, the car was able to turn right when another vehicle let it through, but honestly, have people no common sense?

But it's a chain, isn't it? I stand to be corrected. The other shop is the local one, and I believe family run. A "bold" move? I'd call it a very cheeky move. There is no way they could not have been aware of the other shop a few paces away across the road. I have never had an empanada in my life, and didn't particularly feel a need to try one, but I will now be going out of my way to buy some from the original shop. Some years back, a shop selling the same kind of things as Health Matters opened more or less opposite it. That was also very cheeky. It didn't last long. People continued to support Health Matters (as they have done with the recent opening of Holland & Barrett). The new shop closed down.

I've used just about all the locally available supermarkets for deliveries over the years, and I now use Waitrose for deliveries, for various reasons. They have a good range of the things I eat, their food is good quality and their "essentials" range is generally good value (except the tissues, which suddenly became so thin as to disintegrate immediately. I was mainly buying them for the nice plain boxes, so now I just put other tissues into the old Waitrose boxes 🤣) It is very rare for something I've ordered to not be available on the day. Their delivery drivers are genuinely friendly and helpful. Their customer service is very good. On the rare occasions I've had issues, they have refunded me without quibbling. They often have special deals on some of the things I buy often, so I stock up when they are cheaper. I do occasionally compare prices with other supermarkets, and overall I really don't think Waitrose is more expensive, but obviously they might be for things I don't personally buy. I absolutely hate Sainsbury's, would use Lidl for some things but they don't deliver, Iceland has a very small range of things I eat, and I can't remember why I don't use Tesco or Asda any more. I recently checked out Ocado because there was some offer which seemed good value, but they just didn't have enough things I wanted to buy to make it worth using the offer. M&S don't deliver ( to the best of my knowledge) but in any case they seem to be still badly suffering from the recent hack into their system. Apologies, I have just remembered this thread is about shopping at actual physical stores, but probably many of the issues are the same. ETA: And with Waitrose, if you choose a four hour delivery slot it's only £2, and they give you an hour slot within that on the morning of delivery, so you aren't tied to the house for four hours.

I am ill in bed with Covid. It's not that I "can't be bothered" to read things. I am feeling crap and don't have the mental energy at the moment. I am not "brushing stuff aside and pleading ignorance." I am truthfully saying when I don't presently know enough about something to be able to comment. I have always been very careful to try to differentiate between fact and opinion in both my posts and other people's, and I am not clear what your point is. And I am certainly not trying to wind anybody up. This is a forum. If you don't want to respond to my posts, that's up to you. I'm not sure why you feel the need to announce it.

Why on earth would this shop choose to open almost opposite the only other shop in East Dulwich which is also "all about empanadas"?

Much as I'd like to support the Co op, I think the one in Lordship Lane is a really depressing place to shop in, and it would be great if a Waitrose replaced it. I don't suppose M&S would be delighted, though (and Waitrose probably wouldn't move in, for the same reason).

Oh, ooops, sorry! 🤣

Silly question, but would it not have been someone at the school who marked the mock, and if so (rotten teaching notwithstanding) could they not say why she fell short? I hope you find someone who can help.

You could try asking in the "wanted" section on here, in case anyone is changing their lawn to paving or AstroTurf or decking (sob) ?

I've got nothing else to say. It's pointless. Coming back to the original subject of the thread, apologies if this has already been posted, but I've only just seen it. https://novaramedia.com/2025/07/17/how-labour-rigged-an-election-to-block-a-leftwinger-from-leading-a-council/

OK. We are clearly living in different universes, where logic takes different forms and "evidence" has different meanings. And becomes something else when questioned. We are just going round in circles, so it feels pointless to continue.

First of all, conversations with people who aren't Corbyn supporters are obviously going to tell you why those people didn't vote for him, aren't they? Second (and I don't know why I have to keep on saying this) the electoral system worked against him in terms of seats lost. If you look at the actual numbers of votes per party, yes Labour was behind, but not by as much as it appeared if just seats were counted. Thirdly, that poll was of "nearly 500" people who stopped voting Labour. That's not a very big sample, is it? Of those, 35% said it was because of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership (i.e. 65% had other reasons). Even upping the numbers to 500 people, 35% is 175. 10,269,051 people did actually vote Labour in that election. It's a long time since I used statistics for anything, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anything you have said is "evidence"!

As I said, it was my understanding. I worded it very carefully. I didn't/don't know for sure, so clearly not a fact. And hardly an "opinion", which is something completely different. You have no idea what reason anybody might have had for not voting for him (unless you can point to some opinion poll results which actually asked people?)

It was my understanding that Jeremy Corbyn was embarrassed by his brother and had distanced himself from his brother's views. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Why on earth should "the overall view of that family inform Jeremy's response to the pandemic"? What exactly are you basing that assumption on?

Did May coincide with school holidays?

They used to have dedicated park wardens, who I'm sure used to look after the parks and locked and opened the gates. Years ago I knew someone who was one. I thought they were based in that hut by the toilets. Are they not there any more? The community wardens are attached to the police rather than a specific park, aren't they?

But I don't think that was what you meant, was it? But he can hardly be held responsible for what somebody else did! Just discovered I forgot to post the above last night, and now it's overtaken by long posts. I don't have sufficient knowledge to counter some of what has been said above, some of which appears to be opinion rather than facts, so it would be pointless for me to say anything else.